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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:26 PM
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Why Democrats Play the Bush Card
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Why Democrats Play the Bush Card

A new Public Policy Polling survey of undecided voters finds that 51% think the current state of the economy is still President Bush's responsibility to only 27% who think it's President Obama's, and 55% of them would rather have Obama as President to only 28% who are feeling any Bush nostalgia.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:32 PM
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1. That may work today ...
but if the economy doesn't improve significantly by 2012, blaming Bush will be perceived as whining.

Actually, I expect to see an improvement by 2012. In that case, Obama can argue that his policies DID work.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:34 PM
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2. At least you're willing to give him some time to try to
right this mess, which is more than I can say for others. And I agree; we need a turnaround asap, but it's not like this admin isn't trying to fix it.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:02 PM
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3. The economy is like an oil tanker ...
it doesn't turn around on a dime.

There is absolutely no doubt that Obama was left with a hell of a mess. I almost suspect that the Republicans knew there was no chance of winning the Presidential election or gaining control of Congress, so they let the economy go into free fall. They probably planned for the recession to occur just after Obama took office. Unfortunately for them, it happened on Bush's watch.

There MAY be some advantages to capitalism, but unregulated capitalism has proven to be a failure in past and current history. Regulations are something that Republicans absolutely hate. For some strange reason, they feel that corporate America is interested in making our country a better place to live and that the noble intentions of corporations will overcome greed. Corporations are interested in the bottom line and the next quarter. Period!

Still many of the economic measures passed by the Obama administration have failed to increase jobs. Better planning and different economic advisers may solve this problem. There is no doubt that business hates uncertainty. Not being certain of the cost of Obama's heathcare program and the possible increase in taxes are causing many smaller businesses to hesitate before hiring new workers.

I can't claim to have solutions to the problem, as that is far above my pay grade. But to me, there appears little doubt that if the economy isn't showing strong signs of recovery after Obama has four years in office, he will be a one term President like Jimmy Carter. (The economy SHOULD turn around by 2012, and I firmly believe that it will.)

One thing that has irritated a lot of voters is the fact that 2000 page bills are forced through Congress without our representatives having a chance to have the time to read them. On top of that, they don't seem to work. We appear to many voters as a party that is only interested in pushing an agenda that ignores their views and input. To many, Democrats come across as elitist and capable of ignoring the views of those who send us to office. Republicans can take advantage of this and accuse us of attempting to change our country from a representative democracy to a socialist form of government. Glen Beck can present a case for this with his three black boards. He's a buffoon, but many people listen to his hour long lessons and agree with his view. The fact that the White House fears him so much as to force Shirley Sherrod to resign because he might mention her on his 5 PM program only adds to his allure.

I realize that the Republican party has little interest in bi-partisan cooperation with Democrats. Still many people in this country want to see both parties working together to solve serious problems. We need to offer a chance for Republicans to offer serious solutions and to honestly consider them. If all they can say is, "No" and totally lack ideas, we win. If all they can come up with is failed ideas that have proven not to work, we can win. If, by chance, they actually have some good ideas, we can consider, debate and compromise.

One big danger is that if both parties continue to fight like the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Cleveland Browns on a football field, the voters will give up in total frustration and vote everybody out.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:44 PM
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5. I agree with a lot of what you wrote, but this ignores the
huge elephant in the room imo...


We appear to many voters as a party that is only interested in pushing an agenda that ignores their views and input. To many, Democrats come across as elitist and capable of ignoring the views of those who send us to office. Republicans can take advantage of this and accuse us of attempting to change our country from a representative democracy to a socialist form of government.


It's odd to me you never even mention the obstructionist nature of the rethugs. There is not one thing they've voted for to make America better. Not one. Yet you blame the Dem party.

Yes, both parties are fighting, but the major reason is that the rethugs' game plan was to obstruct. We know that. So why aren't we all pointing this out?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 01:25 AM
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7. I thought I did when I said ...
"I realize that the Republican party has little interest in bi-partisan cooperation with Democrats." You are right, I should have been more critical of their motives. Perhaps I was a little too polite.



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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:42 PM
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4. I don't think they're playing.
Bush dug a huge hole with his "economic policies" and it's going to take a hell of a long time to get out of it. They are right to point that out. They are right to do everything possible to stop the morons who helped Bush trash this nation from getting back in control.

Sometimes it's just the right thing to say.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:30 AM
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6. The Bush card is the perfect wake up call.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:20 AM
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8. KnR.
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