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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:15 PM
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Checkmate, from the President
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/opinion/10tue1.html?_r=1

A Welfare Check and a Voting Card
Published: August 9, 2010


After years of deliberate neglect, the Justice Department is finally beginning to enforce the federal law requiring states to provide voter registration at welfare and food stamp offices. The effort not only promises to bring hundreds of thousands of hard-to-reach voters into the electorate, but it could also reduce the impact of advocacy organizations whose role in registering voters caused such a furor in 2008.

The National Voter Registration Act of 1993, better known as the motor-voter law, is well-known for making it possible to register to vote at state motor vehicle offices. However, the law also required states to allow registration at offices that administer food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, disability assistance and child health programs. States were enthusiastic about the motor-vehicle section of the law, and millions of new voters got on the rolls while getting a driver’s license. But registration at public assistance offices proved far less popular.

In part, that was because of additional paperwork at those offices, but in many states, Republican officials did not want to provide easy entry to the voting rolls for low-income people whom they considered more likely to vote Democratic. The Bush administration devoted its attention to seeking out tiny examples of voter fraud and purging people from the rolls in swing states. It did little to enforce the motor-voter law despite years of complaints from civic groups and Democratic lawmakers.

In April, however, President Obama’s Justice Department sent the states a set of guidelines making it clear that it expected full compliance with the public-assistance office section of the law — the first time in the 15-year history of the motor-voter law that the Justice Department has explained what kinds of offices are covered and what procedures are to be used. The guidelines make it clear that people applying for benefits must not only be offered the chance to register but must be given help in filling out the forms if they ask. If states do not comply voluntarily, lawsuits are likely to follow.

The administration will undoubtedly be accused of acting in a self-serving political way by making it easier for more Democrats to vote. The effort may have that effect. But it is worth remembering that the recession has brought millions of new people to food stamp and other welfare offices in the last two years, many of whom may not be traditional Democrats. In addition, government offices are much more likely to provide reliable registrations than Acorn or other advocacy groups that were widely accused of fraudulent sign-ups in the last cycle. Welfare offices generally have extensive methods of verifying identities in order to provide benefits, and it is illegal to provide false records there.

But the best reason to applaud the Justice Department’s new posture is that it will bring more voters into public life. When advocacy groups sued Ohio and Missouri to force their public assistance offices into complying, huge groups of new voters surged onto the rolls — more than 100,000 in Ohio, and more than 200,000 in Missouri. Nationwide enforcement by the Justice Department could add millions more. The more people who have access to the ballot, the better the country will be.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:17 PM
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1. We know full well why the repukes hate this idea. This is great news.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:19 PM
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2. This is GREAT news! Booman enlightened me...
Edited on Fri Aug-13-10 08:21 PM by babylonsister
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/8/13/113554/999

DOJ to Enforce Motor-Voter Law

snip//

The right wing killed ACORN, but they just got checkmated by the president.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:39 PM
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5. holy shit fuck yah, big payback you bastards!!!!
out of a dead ACORN will grow many Oaks!

fuck you assholes, you did this to yourselves. HAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!!
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:49 PM
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11. DITTO!!!
:rofl:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:34 PM
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3. Great news!
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:39 PM
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4. This is really good news! n/t.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:40 PM
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6. They're filling in the hole left by the malicious collapse of Acorn
trying to make sure everybody has a voice.

:patriot:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:02 PM
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8. Good point n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:34 PM
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10. Yes, thank you. End run; I love it. nt
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:55 PM
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7. The repubs did not enforce this law in a "self-serving political way" as well
"The administration will undoubtedly be accused of acting in a self-serving political way by making it easier for more Democrats to vote."

What goes around....
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:32 PM
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9. Without a doubt a wonderful thing
Good for the DOJ, even good for Eric Holder. And of course the President, but more than any of that, good for the people who will be registered, franchised, because they will vote. And cynical as we all can be in electronic voteland, it is empowering to vote, voting creates a reason to learn things, read, and it is very often the very first bit of simple activism for people who go on to do so much more.
This is just flat out good news. For so many reasons. That's good for a Friday like this one.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:50 PM
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12. I'm imagining James O'Keefe gnashing his teeth right now
$87 rental fee for a pimp and ho costume down the drain.

TlalocW
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:56 PM
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15. Haha! I hope ACORN feels some comfort. nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:22 PM
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53. Maybe he will try to punk Justice next.
He seems to be about that smart.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:51 PM
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13. Now if they hadn't cut food stamps....
so does it all even out?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:53 PM
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14. can you give me some info on this?
I've seen it bandied about here but never dug in.

Who is cutting whose food stamps?

Reliable source please.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:58 PM
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16. Here ya go....
Food Stamps Slashed to Pay for Teacher Jobs Bill
on cbsnews

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013164-503544.html

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:09 PM
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19. thank you. I will mark and read later.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:23 AM
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30. If you read that article, and then follow up and look deeper ...
They did not just "slash" food stamps.

What they did is this.

The STIMULUS bill had an increase included for food stamps, an increase that would phase out over time. To pay for THIS NOW, they moved the end point for the phase out in, to 2014. That's three years from now. The dems actually want to reinstate the funds or do some other shift prior to the 2014 date.

You can read more about it here. Although even this article doesn't really get deep enough into the details of what too place.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/114271-dems-consider-more-food-stamp-cuts-to-fund-child-nutrition-bill

Bottom line: CURRENT Food stamps are not cut. They were INCREASED in the stimulus, with a phase out to that increase which extended past 2014. That phase out has been reset (moved in) to 2014, three years from now. Which means, if nothing changes, for the next 3 years, food stamp funding is UP from the pre-stimulus period. And in 2014, (if nothing changes)food stamp funding will return to where it was before the temporary increase that was built into the stimulus.

Of course describing this accurately is far to difficult for the media. Simply claiming that they "slashed food stamps", suggesting that people are losing food stamps NOW, is far easier, and creates far more controversy. Which draws more eye-balls.
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:54 AM
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33. thanks Joe
For the more complete information.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:01 PM
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34. thank you for explaining.
I figured as much that it was another Lieing Repug Line transported here.
sheesh.

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 01:24 PM
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43. It reminds me of the death panels meme ....
When I heard that little gem, I brought up my PDF copy of the HCR bill and started to search it. Finding nothing, I pushed right wingers who made the claim to tell me which section number that could be found. After a little while, the specific section emerged. It was about 20 or so lines. And if you read those lines, the death panel lie was obvious.

But the media doesn't want to read the actual text ... and its far too dull to describe the reality.

Much easier, and more fun, to shout "death panel" or "Congress slashes food stamps" ...
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:12 PM
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48. Thank you JoePhilly
there is way too much misinformation and hyperbole out there.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:41 PM
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51. thanks for explaining there are people screaming all over here...
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 04:41 PM by Historic NY
Democrats & Liberals are mostly generous to those less fortunate.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:02 PM
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36. It appears that you are very wrong.
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 12:03 PM by Whisp
I don't know if you have made an honest mistake or that you just don't care what the truth is or is it that whatever makes Obama sound like a monster ( taking food away from the poor) is what the mission is.

feh.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 06:47 AM
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61. WTF? He simply provided you with the link to the article -

what exactly are you trying to accuse him of?? :wtf:
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:21 AM
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29. Yeah in 2014 they don't renew the increase enacted by
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 11:22 AM by whistler162
the stimulus!

The whiners needed something to complain about from that bill so they latched onto that.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:29 PM
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50. I agree with your sentiment ... but I blame the media for feeding those ...
who are compelled to find the bad in anything good, and then make THAT the story.

Those who are going to whine, are going to whine ... and you can't prevent that ... but the media is USING them.

My sense is that the media is feeding the "far left" (light me on fire for using that term) as much "bad news" (real or manufactured) as possible ... to lower Democratic enthusiasm not only on the "far left" but in the moderate left too.

Think about it. Let's say you are a moderate Dem. The GOP says Obama is a evil socialist. The "far left" says he's a corporatist.

But standing here "in the middle", it looks to me like a "majority" opposes Obama. And the media says that's because he's doing to much. I'm not sure what to do ... I'll WAIT, stay home, see what happens AFTER the election ... maybe things will be clearer then.

I really think that is the GOP / MSM plan.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:00 PM
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18. Read this, and place blame where it's due, if you can...
So why cut food stamps as the recovery is suddenly faltering? The short answer is, because Republicans insisted on it. Not food stamps specifically — that idea came from the White House, although no Republican objected. But Republicans compelled the cuts by insisting that any new spending measures, even on something as seemingly unobjectionable as saving teachers’ jobs, be “offset’’ in the budget. A grim necessity, they claimed, to prevent the deficit from killing the recovery. But that’s a political argument, not an economic one.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/08/12/the_raid_on_food_stamps/
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:14 PM
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20. I forget - which party has control of Congress?
Though, this line in your post is interesting "..Not food stamps specifically —that idea came from the White House

Obama could have taken his money from his war or from his "Race to the Top" scam - but no we have a Democratic president taking food from poor people. Real nice.

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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:30 PM
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21. +1 n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 06:42 AM
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60. Absolutely incredible. I've been following this story for over a month, since
Obama's veto threat... The Administration objected to having about half a billion dollars taken from their overfunded pet project, Race To The Top, to help pay for the bill that would save some 200,000 teachers jobs. Instead, their idea/solution was taking $12 Billion from Food Stamps. I mean, it's unreal. And now this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x412475

:crazy:

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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:32 PM
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22. So, the repubs really are in charge.
"because Republicans insisted on it."

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:33 AM
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24. They have enough power to obstruct votes. I'm sure even
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 06:06 AM by babylonsister
you might have noticed that.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:27 AM
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31. See my post #30 for a better response ...
food stamps weren't actually cut.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 06:08 PM
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55. There is no excuse for walking back an increase in food stamps.
Food won't be any cheaper 3 years from now and food stamps are already inadequate thanks to clinton.

How about we hit up some of the billions in oil co. subsidies. We can always re-instate them in 4 years so that the ceo's don't go hungry.

Millionaires cut from the poorest of the poor, pathetic.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:08 AM
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28. Is it always your first instinct to shit on good news instead of celebrate it?
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 11:13 AM by great white snark
Cuts pay for teachers & Medicaid. Thanks babylonsister.


Edited to give thanks.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:59 PM
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17. Fanfu@kingtastic!! K&R!!!
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:32 AM
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23. K&R nt.
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ebbie15644 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:09 AM
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25. It could be good but
I do voter motor registration in PA and some of the people that need the most still vote against their best interest. They quote Rush Limpballs and Glenn Beck and all the other Hate mongers!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:02 PM
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35. Let me guess...they are white people who fear black people...
That seems to be the motivation for so many who vote against their own interests.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:18 AM
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26. With ACORN gone, this is more important than ever
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 09:19 AM by depakid
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:00 AM
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27. That is....
Good news!
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:27 AM
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32. ...and more heads have just exploded on Free Republic........n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:03 PM
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37. excellent
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:05 PM
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38. Voter registration...
Should be available at all govt offices
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:05 PM
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39. EXCELLENT!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:31 PM
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40. Kick
:kick:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:32 PM
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41. k and r nt
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 01:04 PM
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42. K&R! nt
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 02:36 PM
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44. KandR.
peace~
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 02:39 PM
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45. K & R nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:38 PM
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46. k&r. Thank you mr. President. nm
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:50 PM
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47. AMEN!!!!
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:19 PM
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49. K&R YES!!! Thank you Mr. President!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:06 PM
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52. Bravo! I guess this is one of the things President is doing that don't get much publicity. nt
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 06:00 PM
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54. Kick
:kick:
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 06:38 PM
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56. I love this move! I hope it pans out bigtime for "the people".
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 07:05 PM
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57. But when will our voting machines be auditable?
You can have 10 million voters registered but if the machines can be flagrantly hacked it means nothing. Why aren't Democrats in Congress as we speak passing legislation that the electronic voting machines are required to meet standards of common sense and accountability? Four years have passed and it is same ole same ole.

As far as I'm concerned the perpetuation of hackable voting machines is far more dangerous to our democracy than the need to have access to voting registration.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 07:14 PM
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58. The "devil will be in the details"...lets wait and see the final outcome before we are so quick to
praise.

We are finding out that these headlines "leaked to friendly press" from Administration seem to mimic the "leaks" that other Presidents have done when they were going to "head fake us" by doing legislation that would counter what they say in the leak.

"the Devil is in the Details"....lets see what Obama and Congress REALLY DO before we start to give KUDO's..
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 10:59 PM
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59. "lets see what Obama and Congress REALLY DO before we start to give KUDO's.. "
What does this have to do with Congress?

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