otohara
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Mon Aug-16-10 03:43 PM
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Were There NO Mosques Built During Bush Years? |
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I don't remember Newt or other racists in the GOP calling for a ban on building mosques?
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Mon Aug-16-10 03:49 PM
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1. Republicans are wicked and hypocritical. If shrub wasn't on vacation he'd be at the opening if he |
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was in office. It's good PR when your killing up a lot of the same type of folks.
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Mon Aug-16-10 04:03 PM
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2. This shit storm is not about mosques it is about one to be built near GZ |
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ostensibly to promote peace and harmony but which has done nothing but stir up divisiveness. That now people are riled up about other mosques in other places is not surprising, very very regretable but not surprising.
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Mon Aug-16-10 04:30 PM
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3. Fear and hate are powerful |
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Interestingly, those are two of the four wasted human emotions my dad used to lecture me on - the other two were, jealousy and worry.
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Mon Aug-16-10 04:32 PM
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:05 PM
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7. Yeah, not bad for a man who only made it through 6th grade.. |
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My dad certainly had his faults and shortcomings, but he did pretty ok where it counted.
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TheKentuckian
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:19 PM
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9. What of it? Is there a problem with religious observance in a particular radius from the location of |
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towers?
Going down this slippery slope is quite dangerous and there may be no climbing up once you start down it.
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Mon Aug-16-10 06:48 PM
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14. To build a mosque near Ground Zero is allowed by US law, |
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but it is morally insensitive and it contravenes its purported purpose which is promoting goodwill, peace and harmony in the greater community.
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TheKentuckian
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Tue Aug-17-10 02:31 PM
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20. How, is out morally insensitive for their to be a Christian church at the site of Tiller's murder? |
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You are insisting that Islam is universally at fault here rather than the criminals themselves.
Muslims also died on 9/11
If any religious based community center can be built there then it is appropriate for this one to be.
This hubbub cannot be justified within American values.
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Guy Whitey Corngood
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Mon Aug-16-10 04:30 PM
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4. I used to say that we're a fucking country of 8 year olds. I have to amend that. |
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It's closer to 6 year olds.
You know one thing we haven't talked about in a while? FLAG PINS. By all means let's keep bringing down the collective IQ.
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:24 PM
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10. Honestly, I've known a lot of intelligent kids |
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They're inquisitive, thinking and yearning for knowledge - little sponges. I think the better description of our 'general' state of adult beings, is willfully ignorant. Too many of us lack the yearning to learn/seek, ie ... the inquisitive nature that we once possessed. A world of 6 year olds ... holy cow! None of us taking what's told us for certain and wanting to find out for ourselves - yeah, count me in for that. :D
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Guy Whitey Corngood
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:34 PM
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11. I don't disagree with anything you say. I think emotionally we're stuck at a level of a |
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5 or 6 year old. It's a constant state of arrested development for about 50% of the country with another 10-20 that seems to go along "just 'cause".
Imagine how many languages we could learn as a real nation of 6 yr. olds. :P
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:39 PM
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13. Let's not give kids a bad rap though |
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I'd rather hold adults responsible for their lack of being ... kids are amazing and constantly developing, it's after we decide we're all grown up, that things go to hell. lol
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Guy Whitey Corngood
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Mon Aug-16-10 08:26 PM
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15. Who's giving children a bad wrap? Children are immature by nature. That's why they're children. |
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They don't know any better. Which is why as we grow up (in theory) we're supposed to learn coping mechanisms. I don't expect a child to make reasoned arguments as amazing and all around kick ass as he/she may be. I do expect grown ups to be able to take in facts and separate them from emotion. That's all. It's a tiny little analogy about the refusal in our society to grow up.
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Mon Aug-16-10 04:41 PM
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6. Well, there was that one built in the Pentagon... |
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:16 PM
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8. No one is suggesting that mosques shouldn't be built. |
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But many people feel that building one 2 blocks away from Ground Zero may not be the best idea.
I wish that everybody who is not from this area, and did not live through that day and its aftermath, would shut the hell up and let the locals decide what to do about this issue. That includes Obama too.
People who lived through 9/11 have a right to have mixed feelings about this cultural center. If the rest of the country doesn't like it, well it's too freaking bad!!!
When in 1986 the Catholic church planned to build a covent near Auschwitz the outcry from Jewish groups persuaded the church to build it somewhere else.
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Mon Aug-16-10 05:35 PM
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12. everyone has a right to any feeling they want, no matter how ignorant or bigoted |
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Because one "lived" through 9/11 doesn't make them immune from being called fools.
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Tue Aug-17-10 01:12 AM
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Some fundy guy from the American Family Association http://politifi.com/news/American-Family-Association-Spokesman-Fischer-Calls-for-Total-Mosque-Ban-1020720.htmlJust wait, by the end of the week, there will be more calls for bans. And there are protests in 4 other cities now where mosques are scheduled to be built.
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Mon Aug-16-10 09:09 PM
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16. Just a block or two from WTC there are 2 Mosques |
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Mon Aug-16-10 09:15 PM
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17. This is really about a mosques just being built....... |
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It is not near 'GZ', it is blocks away and it is also being built on private property. Least we forget the freedom of religion which is in the Constitution, and I bet no one would say shit if it was a church being built there....total HYPOCRICY. The consitution is a two way street and the nuts quickly forget that.
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Mon Aug-16-10 09:38 PM
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18. It is 2 blocks away. n/t |
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Wed Aug-18-10 02:14 PM
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21. Blocks = more than one, its plural. |
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Wed Aug-18-10 02:20 PM
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22. Ban Fundamentalist Christianity in Oklahoma City |
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What's good for the goose and all.
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