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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:02 PM
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Obama stem cell regulations temporarily blocked
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 04:04 PM by Peacetrain
You just can't make this stuff up :crazy:



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100823/ap_on_sc/us_judge_stem_cell

WASHINGTON – A federal judge on Monday temporarily blocked Obama administration regulations expanding stem cell research.

The nonprofit group Nightlight Christian Adoptions contends that the government's new guidelines will decrease the number of human embryos available for adoption.

U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth ruled that the plaintiffs are entitled to bring their lawsuit in the courts.

A federal appeals court had ruled that two doctors who were among those bringing the lawsuit, adult stem cell researchers James Sherely of the Boston Biomedical Research Institute and Theresa Deisher of AVM Biotechnlogy, had the authority to do so, prompting Lamberth to reverse a decision he made last October.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:07 PM
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1. There are kids already born who are desperate to be adopted!!!!
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:14 PM
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2. I hear you...
I am just stunned by things like this..
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:25 PM
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9. Yeah, it's just mind boggling
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:16 PM
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3. Sigh these people are unbelievable.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:19 PM
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5. Yep... there is a term for them
snow babies.. how many of the hundreds of thousands of embryos frozen have been adopted? How many children, here with us now.. are sitting an waiting in foster care.. waiting to age out..
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fogonthelake Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:17 PM
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4. whow. maybe if all the kids eligable for adoption were
actually adopted this just might make some sense. Until then, it is crap.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:20 PM
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6. I agree with you 100 percent..
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:25 PM
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7. My brain hurts...
Seriously. The right side of the brain feels like it's got a toothache. I'm amazed that I can still spell correctly.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:25 PM
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8. Many, many people I know
(I belong to a group) who have frozen ebmies left over from IVF, do not give them out for adoption anyway. They hang on to them for years and years hoping they can afford to try again or have them destroyed. There are a few that give them out for adoption, but you know, most really do not.

I'd like to see really verifiable numbers showing where stem cell research has greatly reduced the number of available embryos for adoption. Realizing that this is a personal issue and those that opt for adopting out the embryo will continue to do so. There are choices the parents make prior to IVF, and no one option is pressed on a couple.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:35 PM
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10. Christian "right-to-lifers" don't give a shit about life.
Stem cells are not a person, but they can save the life of one.

Fucking hypocrits.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:48 PM
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11. I say the hell with the doctors bringing the lawsuit.
They want to eliminate the competition that stem cell research will cause. Which I say is baloney. They shouldn't be able to hoard / mandate all embryos for their business.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:54 PM
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12. Damn activist judges!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 04:57 PM
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13. Reagan appointee. nt
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seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:02 PM
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17. He is a Reagan appointee who had to resign from heading
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 11:03 PM by seattleblue
the FISA secret court because he stood up to Bush's Attorney General Ashcroft. Ashcroft forced him off. The Court of Appeals took him off handling Native American cases because he said the Interior Department had a history of racism toward the NA claims. He is very principled and follows what the law puts in front of him. The current law says the embryos can't be funded. The law needs to be changed.
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:08 AM
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21. He was more or less forced to decide this way...
by the Circuit Court of Appeals.

I know a little of Judge Lamberth, and for a Reagan appointee he's pretty fair.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:42 PM
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14. If the Democratic Congress had any backbone....
...they'd vote to repeal the Dickey-Wicker Amendment before the week is over. Watch them cower under their desks instead. :hide:
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seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:50 PM
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16. They don't need to cower. They are on recess until mid September.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:55 AM
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23. Shhh, why invalidate such an ignorant comment? (nt)
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:45 PM
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15. Just saw your thread...
It's nonsensical that a judge can stop future medical breakthroughs.



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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:03 PM
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18. "new guidelines will decrease the number of human embryos available for adoption"
So? :shrug:

I'm sorry, but I don't get it. Since when is there supposed to be a certain number of embryos available for adoption? Since when is the government - or anyone - obligated to provide those embryos?



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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:29 PM
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19. stem cells can come from non fetal sources, then what?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:49 AM
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20. Do you know how many embryos are SUITABLE for implantation?
"During 2001, the last year for which data were available, 85% of the embryos transferred did not produce a live birth," they write. "This figure represents the embryo wastage that occurs after transfer of fresh embryos, for which presumably the best embryos have been selected."

Additionally, this is an underestimation, they stressed, since it doesn't include abnormally formed embryos that are discarded, those not deemed suitable for freezing, and those lost during the thaw process afterwards."

http://www.fertilityneighborhood.com/content/in_the_news/archive_1274.aspx

The majority of transplanted embryos, which are judged to be the most healthy and most likely to implant, don't. And embryos not selected for implantation have something wrong with them.

God, these people are fucking stupid.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:34 AM
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22. This is what happened with Guantanamo...you'd think some DUers and Dems would see this.
So when they say he hasn't come through with Guantanamo, they'd also realize why----because of crap like this in the ways of stem cell research. His was a bit more dealing with a lot of push back from Dems and Republicans in office, admittedly---but the same thing is ahead---blockage any way possible. I hope some DUers get this and will stop saying he failed/stalled on Guantanamo---in light of this situation.
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