McGrumpy is back. "...The President, I guess, never got that lecture."

[jefferson_dem]

"I was always taught as a young officer, when you succeed you give credit to others. When you fail, you take responsibility. The President, I guess, never got that lecture."

-- Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), in an interview on Fox News, on President Obama not praising former President Bush for the "surge" that helped end combat operations in Iraq.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/01/quote_of_the_day.html

[Renew Deal]

1. Praising Bush for the surge would be like praising the builders of the Titanic for lifeboats.

It was an avoidable disaster and we're lucky to be out of there.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

2. Really, John?

Considering what a colossal fuck-up your military career turned out to be, I'm surprised you'd offer an observation like than.

[truebrit71]

3. .."when I was a young officer"...was that before or after you crashed 4 planes?

:eyes:

[pdxmom]

4. I wonder if, as a young officer, McCain was also taught that when

you screw something up (the economy), you accept responsibility for the mistakes and work together to solve the problem?

[NC_Nurse]

5. Didja get the one about selling out your principles, John? Guess not.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. If we hadn't been there, there would NOT have been a need for a "surge"

and there was absolutely no tangible justification for us being over there in the first place. While the concern about the state of Iraq's WMD program at the time was somewhat justifiable and I had no problem with efforts to get UN Weapons Inspectors back in there, there was absolutely no reason why we had to hurry up and invade/occupy the country at that particular time. Whatever we might have legitimately been concerned about in regards to Iraq, there was absolutely no objective evidence that Iraq was an imminent threat to anybody outside the confines of its own borders. I will NEVER understand how we could have been at imminent risk of attack by a third-world country that couldn't even control the entirety of its own airspace.
:banghead:

[rocktivity]

12. Actually, Liberal Dem, there WAS a reason why Bush had to hurry up and invade

Bush knew there were no weapons and he couldn't allow the inspectors to find that out. Why? No weapons, no invasion. No invasion, no oil or defense industry profits, and no base of operations for invading the rest of the Middle East. THAT'S what Bush meant when he said "I am the war president." Didn't you think it was strange that work started on the embassy virtually the minute the first pair of boots hit the ground?

:headbang:
rocktivity

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. By the time the invasion began

It was crystal-clear to me that they were going to invade no matter what because I heard them (and their mouthpieces) bashing and bad-mouthing the UN Weapons Inspectors during the whole time they were there (and, of course, not finding anything). When Colin Powell- the only Bushie who I thought would seriously try to talk Bush out of invading Iraq- decided instead to come out in favor of the invasion and Bush, Cheney, et. al flat-out REFUSED to accept the findings of the UN weapons inspectors (that didn't fit with their fictional narrative), I knew that NOTHING was going to stop them at that point. I didn't know about the embassy starting the minute we went in but nothing would really surprise me, frankly. :puke:

[rocktivity]

15. Hearing Powell bellow "This evidence is irrefutable!"

I, too knew it was a done deal.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[Proud Liberal Dem]

16. I called BS on the whole thing from the get-go

I had a hard time believing that Iraq- a third world country- that had been crushed and defeated when it tried to invade and occupy Kuwait in the early 1990's miraculously endured over a decade of crippling sanctions and weapons inspections imposed by the UN, bombing campaigns (i.e. "Desert Fox" under Clinton), strict no-fly zones, and a broken military to suddenly emerge in 2002-2003 as being so armed to the teeth with dangerous weapons that we were going to HAVE to invade/occupy it in order to save ourselves. Of course, the Bushies (to our country's eternal detriment) were able to so skillfully manipulate the tragedy of 9/11 and people's fears about Al-Queda that the above scenario became mildly believable to most people- or at least the ones whom mattered the most.

[sarge43]

7. As a young officer I'm sure you were taught

that it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid rather than run it and remove all doubt.

[Fire1]

8. Right! Give praise to a president who started a war that never

should have happened. :eyes:

[KingFlorez]

9. Too bad Vietnam didn't keep him

Yeah, I said it and I meant it.

[bluestateguy]

10. He appears to haev trouble grasping that he lost the election

I guess that never got through to him.

[rocktivity]

11. He succeeded in cleaning up Bush's mess

because if he'd sent in enough troops to begin with, there would have been no need for a surge.

:headbang:
rocktitivy

[jaxx]

13. McCain comes across as just another bitter old white man.

Tough.

[Arkana]

17. McGramps forgot his Geritol, it seems.

[NatBurner]

18. so i guess he's taking resposibilty for foisting that wretched palin woman on america?

oh he's not?

then i'm gonna need him to kiss my entire ass and shut the fuck up

[11 Bravo]

19. It's a shame they didn't teach you how to fly instead, you four-plane crashing old fuck!

[beac]

20. McCain is a LIAR! I know FOR A FACT that he was a DISASTER at the Naval Academy

and as a "young officer" and had a hard time owning up to his many and various failures. (Know someone who outranked him at the USNA and had occasion to call him on the carpet more than once.) He would have been kicked out of the Academy if he wasn't the son and grandson of actual Naval heroes.

Hey, McNasty... when are YOU going to "take responsibility" for unleashing that hellhound Palin upon us? Never? Yup, that's what I thought.