He's going to do it. He's going to bring peace to the Middle East

[potassiumnitrate]

He passed health care in a little over a year. He ended the Iraq war. He averted a Great Depression. This guy gets shit DONE. This guy is a winner. This guy is going to bring peace to the Middle East, once and for all.

I feel it. Obama is something else.

[lamp_shade]

1. First rec.

[BootinUp]

2. I am very hopeful he will make some progress

on this intractable problem, so I kick and Rec your post.

[opihimoimoi]

3. 2nd rec :o)

[BootinUp]

6. not uhh! you were 3rd.

;)

[opihimoimoi]

10. Drats....foiled again...by 3.77 seconds....LOL :o)

[safeinOhio]

4. I really hope he call pull it off.

If so, I can see a new face on Mt. Rushmore.

[Ian David]

5. Right-wingers will hate that. They WANT war in the middle-east. n/t

[crim son]

7. I very much doubt it but

I hope you are right... that would be akin to a miracle.

[Sky Masterson]

8. Sure would.

Hello , Gorgeous. ;)

[Booster]

9. After he brings peace to the Middle East, maybe he can work

on peace right here in the U.S.

[YvonneCa]

15. Peace on...

...DU ? :7

[Hekate]

40. Yeah!

That would be peachy. :thumbsup:

[YvonneCa]

74. Wouldn't it be great? Just a...

...'little' more unity would be really nice. :)

[jenmito]

11. K&R. And judging by the statements a little while ago by Netanyahu, Abbas, Mubarak and Abdullah,

it sounds like it just might work this time.

[Parker CA]

12. K&R - That would be incredible.

[discopants]

13. The rightwing media will be counting on failure

and the reason for all the conflict in the Middle East will be blamed on him.

The GOP will certainly be rooting for failure.

[slay]

14. Welcome to DU! Now -Health care reform wasn't real reform,we still have thousands of troops in Iraq,

he never even TRIED to fight for a public option hell he wouldn't even talk about it. He's just not a good leader. The shit he gets done is a technical win at best, with no substantial change. Also, he's covering up the major crime of the WAR of aggression and profit in Iraq. AND AND - he's ESCALATED another pointless war in Afghanistan while people here in the USA are losing their jobs, and their homes! I'm not sure if you believe what you wrote potassiumnitrate, or if you just wish it was true. But no, he doesn't "got it", he's never gonna get it, and he's losing what's left of his base - those he hasn't already lost. I wish what you said was true. It's not.

Lots of propaganda from GD:P today.

[FrenchieCat]

19. He's not magic, and it ain't perfect.......

but I tell you what.....
don't give him credit for anything positive,
and I'll call that propaganda.
Have a nice day.

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[Smashcut]

75. Interesting. And how would you square that with the magical thinking expressed in the OP

Which you apparently agree with? ("Obama's gonna do it. I feeeeeel it!!!")

You're the ones who act like the guy's a Jedi master and then as soon as it's pointed out how much he's not doing, you trot out the "he's not a magician" strawman. Which is it?

[IndianaGreen]

79. It is called faith based politics

We see this disorder in people like Sharron Angle who is convinced GAWD wants her to be President. Of course, that would be the Scientology GAWD according to this:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/sharron-angle-attacked-for-alleged-scientology-ties.php

[PurityOfEssence]

85. Yes: a personality cult amplified by insecure egos of those who have to shriek down any opposition

It's much more important for certain partisans to hammer down any dissenters and apply peer pressure than it is to actually stand for something. That's why many of us use the term "cult": not only is the blinkered adulation something that survives repeated jettisoning of liberal or progressive policies, it has the tempestuous fury of the insecure egos who dread more than anything the judgment of having been wrong, and hold their selfish need to be morally superior above all else, including the general welfare or even basic sense.

Meanwhile, the administration spends fruitless energy courting those who will never be swayed, while systematically haranguing the left and not even trying for progressive policies. Timidity is too nice and bland a term for this kind of ultramoderate favor-currying, and the self-aggrandizing enablers are enough to make one gag.

[phleshdef]

22. The incoherant babbling such as this is becoming so tiresome.

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[JoePhilly]

23. Got some cheese to go with that whine??

Across the board, Obama has done pretty much what he said he would do.

As for "technical change" ... my 12 year old niece, who had cancer at 2, and survived against a 90% death rate, and who could not be insured because of her pre-existing condition since ... NOW has AFFORDABLE full heath coverage. That's not a "technical change" it is REAL CHANGE.

Obama said he would increase troops in Afghanistan as a candidate, and he has ... yet you sound surprised that he did so. Were you not paying attention?

Obama said he'd be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. Which means no abrupt withdraw. He said his target was to remove all combat troops in 16 months. It will actually be 19 months. Yes, we will still have some troops there, just as Obama said as a candidate.

So, while one can bitch that Obama needed to remove all troops, what one can not do is claim that Obama has not done what he said he would do.

As for losing his base ... total BS ... your "base" does not jump off the band wagon when the team struggles. Your BASE fights for you, and with you, particularly when you struggle. The GOP base understands this.

So .. if you want to call yourself the base, then get on board and fight first and foremost against the GOP. If not, stop claiming that you are the base. Because you are not. You jumped on a band wagon expecting something different then what was actually promised, and now you want to jump off.

[Pirate Smile]

25. You should post your own OP based on that. I'm so happy for your niece and her family.

Every Dem who voted for Health Insurance Reform needs to run an ad with someone like your niece. Then they can also say the Republicans want to repeal it/voted against it. If they personalize these stories, those will be very powerful ads - and honest, truthful ads.

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[polmaven]

48. Right on target!

Great response. Thank you! I am CONSTANTLY astonished at the trollish behavior of so many alleged Democrats. This country will never elect someone as far to the left as that poster would apparently like.

And please know how happy MOST of DU is about your niece. That is a story to warm our hearts. What a great outcome for her!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

54. very well put, and I agree with PirateSmile, post 25!

I thought this should be an OP, then I saw Pirate's reply!

[niceypoo]

58. The base isnt leaving the party

The party is leaving the base

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[Number23]

44. I know I say this all of the time, but I really love you.

Don't worry, though. I'm happily married and live on the other side of the world now, but I just thought I'd let you know.

If it embarrasses you that I keep telling you this, I'll just use this smiley :loveya: whenever you post something that reminds me (and you) that I love you.

[Chulanowa]

47. Jeeze, gonna make me blush and get all awkward n/t

[Count Olaf]

62. so insulting people, bullying people and ganging up is the new way to discuss issues?

very forward thinking of you all here in GD Politics...

[slay]

68. It's the ONLY way they do things here in GD:P

n/t

[Hekate]

41. My God, man, get a grip on yourself!

:eyes:

[Number23]

45. He has to get a grip on reality first!

:rofl: :hug:

[slay]

69. So.. you ignore every FACT I stated, post no message,

and roll your eyes. You really added a lot to the conversation there buddy.

[ncteechur]

89. I'm sorry you didn't get your pony. Maybe John Boehner can get you one.

[Turbineguy]

16. That would be nice.

Even though the repubs would invent some new shortcoming to offset this.

[Hekate]

42. We expect no less from the odious Repubs and their captive media, which is why it's up to us Dems to

... counter their crap publicly and often.

Hekate

[TomClash]

17. Double his pay

Just for having to meet the odious Netanyahu today.

[scheming daemons]

18. Fox News, RW media, LW media, the Teabaggers, and the "professional left" will all find a way to

...spin Israeli/Palestinian peace as a negative thing.

[FrenchieCat]

20. Some might even try and muck it up. Our media's good at that......

so I'm sure they are coming up with the "angle"
on how to get that done as we type.

[Whisp]

33. Gergen on CNN was complaining today that instead of this peace deal

Obama should be working on the job situation.

If this pans out it I don't have to say it will be a BFD, but some are just such downers - never satisfied with anything. Would be miserable to have to live with these assholes.

[Hekate]

77. Fortunately President Obama can multitask

[Hekate]

43. You're absolutely right, so keep the LTTEs and such coming from our side.

[Phx_Dem]

66. Teabaggers and professional lefties are in the same camp,

for different reasons, but still the same camp.

[mkultra]

86. "Professional left"--the best definition i have heard yet.

+1 to you.

[Clio the Leo]

24. That would be awesome.....

... "bring" might not be the word I'd use so much as "help calm things down a bit."

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

26. Fox News will claim that Obama ruined the Mideast Mortuary Industry (nt)

[saltpoint]

28. If peace ever matters, there is an abiding

need for it now in the Middle East.

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[saltpoint]

31. I'd favor peace over its absence if it can be

negotiated and arranged and sustained.

Call me old-fashioned.

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[Hekate]

38. "You people"? Niiiice.

[Smashcut]

73. They have to keep the high going somehow.

[Karenina]

76. This is nothing more than political theater on steroids.

Abbas has NO MANDATE from the "country" he is representing. Bibi is just posturing and cloning. I expect the whole process to collapse over the "settlement" issue. "FACTS ON THE GROUND" as we called it in my teenage years, nearly a half century ago...

[impik]

34. I don't know if he will, but he's the only one who can. I never saw anyone so stubborn.

[LittleBlue]

35. I'll believe it when I see it.

So far, a lot of talk, we'll see if it results in anything substantive.

[agentS]

36. This may be harder than solving the economy

a lot of entrenched interests in that region, some with "tentacles" that reach very far.

If all players recognize that, it may be possible to strike a deal, instead of dropping everything because of 1 or 2 random bombings.

[Hekate]

39. Total agreement-- except for the Middle East "permanent peace" prospects, alas

Probably everyone would settle for two things: partition of Israel and Palestine, and a nice solid detente throughout the region for the foreseeable future.

Welcome to DU! It's so nice to see a newbie with a positive attitude!

Hekate

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[polmaven]

49. "your boy"????

Excuse me???? Are you sure you are in the right place?

[impik]

51. Then they'll say that there isn't racism on the left. Progressives my a**

[scheming daemons]

52. "your boy"? (Your slip is showing)

[AngryOldDem]

50. LOL.

The only president who could bring peace to the Mideast is Jed Bartlet.

This is the fourth president who has stepped in to that morass. He will have no better success than those who came before. But if he does pull it off, let me know so I can be there when walks across the Potomac.

I'm not saying he shouldn't try. But a little realism must factor into the discussion.

[Cowpunk]

53. I'd feel a little better about Obama having fixed health care...

...if Blue Cross hadn't just raised our rates another 30% this year. The small company I work for, which goes through a tedious yearly process of shopping the local health insurance market, has now switched to United. The rates are still much higher than last yesr, and our company, which is does its best to keep us insured, ate most of that increase, which means I'll probably have to go another year without a raise.

I've gotten two 50 cent raises in the last 5 years because of this shit, while gasoline and utility prices have doubled and food prices have also inflated sharply.

I realize that many people who couldn't get insurance will be helped by the bill, but the vast majority of American individuals and businesses will still have to deal with this out-of-control profit-sucking monster for many years to come. I see no hope at all for my situation to improve with the health care legislation they passed.

But I guess that just makes me an ungrateful, whiney leftist.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

56. I feel so torn sometimes....

I agree with you, and I also agree that the HR bill is already having positive effects.

But I also am aware that, like cleaning out a nasty oven, there's a lot of cruddy shit to grapple with before it's clean..... I just wish this oven weren't so sabotaged by the RightWingCONservativeCorporatistMediawhore junta every step of the way. Then again, that very reaction from them, in itself, measures the significance of the change. And then, I'm back to being upset at the suffering that is going on in people's lives. And then I'm back to knowing that there IS improvement happening, already helping people, and then sadness knowing that change in reality takes time to manifest consistently and broadly......

I look forward to the Consumer Commision, and hope that it would include the predatory insurance industry in its sights.

[no limit]

55. Can you please pass the blunt this way.

[niceypoo]

57. Obama will end the blocade of the Palestinian territories by Israel?

Doubtful

[Wednesdays]

61. I see the glass half-full/half-empty at this point

I acknowledge the great reduction of troops in Iraq, and the scaling down of the occupation there. However, we still do have a presence in Iraq, there's still killing going on in Afghanistan, and there are numerous hot spots smoldering all over the region.

There's still a lot of work to do.

[Enrique]

63. it's worth a try

:thumbsup:

[Phx_Dem]

64. There's good reason to hope. He's been able to do what others haven't in other areas.

[Political Tiger]

65. K & R! n/t

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

67. Forget the abyss in the ME; Fix your own country first. EOM

[mkultra]

88. lol. because the conflict in the middle east has no impact on us at home.

[lumberjack_jeff]

70. Yup. You can count on Benjamin Netanyahu to be a trustworthy peace broker.

:rofl:

Uh, I don't think so. It's pointless to broker peace talks to which that snakey fucker is a party.

[IndianaGreen]

81. Bibi already said he was keeping the whole of Jerusalem!

A recipe for permanent war!

[lumberjack_jeff]

71. Jimmy Carter did it first.

Didn't do him much good here.

[lynne]

72. How about some peace at home and some JOBS, too??? eom

[bvar22]

78. YAY!!!

Add this to the Obama Mission Accomplished list!
:patriot:

[Usrename]

80. You forgot to add that he closed Gitmo on his first day.

:patriot:

[Exilednight]

84. you forgot your :sarcasm: tag. n/t

[mix]

82. u r silly

:rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

83. Things were much better under Bill Clinton.

Shit hit the fan basically the moment Bush took office, and it all stagnated for 8 years.

It should be no surprise that things will improve under Obama.

[flamingdem]

87. K + R

[laurel46]

90. He might use the military to force peace.

Samantha Powers was on tv talking about the palestinian genocide and that using military strength might be necessary. The UN and the allies have been preparing for some time now to go in and enforce the border agreement, it wouldn't work if Israel or Palestine were to try do this themselves so having a foreign police force is a problem. Neither state will want to give up its ability to fight and defend. If one looks at the white house advisors on foreign affairs, it is loaded with people who are inclined to stand up to Israel and force the issue, this is no secret if one looks at the people listed on whitehouse.gov and checks their prior views. Obama has 300 advisors, way more than Bush had so he is serious about forcing peace, as he should be.

This summer there were planned military exercises in the mediterranean which were then joined by many other countries and this seemed to be a surprise to many since the other countries had not been openly planned to participate. It looked like a show of force right after the flotilla incident. France, Germany, UK, Greece, Italy, portugal, spain and a few more, practiced on each others ships and planes, no one in our media mentioned this historic event. The european media and middle eastern media reported. The quartet has been involved as well as the arab union. Lots of military equipment has been sold to countries for missile defense that looks like it may be to strengthen defense world wide and make aggression from bully countries less likely, but I am not sure if that is why so many countries were armed. I was in Africa right after this happened and saw a lot of changes going on all ready, nation building and new constitutions. I do think peace will come, the question is why are the news and other media not covering this? Who is upset in the media and does not want to broadcast this show of strength by the USA and the rest of the world?

Obama has also been kicking some corporate butt with bribery and corruption charges, going after military contractors who defrauded the government as well as pharma. The DOJ has raked in billions in fines and none of this is reported, none of the corruption battles that the administration has won for the little guy. Obama is a great president and we are lucky to have him and I bet this is one reason the media has been so vicious.

[golfguru]

91. Fantaaaaaastic! 2000 year old conflict between jews and arabs

cured by president Obama! Now that is really FANTASTIC.

[golfguru]

Fantaaaaaastic! 2000 year old conflict between jews and arabs

cured by president Obama! Now that is really FANTASTIC.

[golfguru]

92. Fantaaaaaastic! 2000 year old conflict between jews and arabs

cured by president Obama! Now that is really FANTASTIC.