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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 04:59 PM
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The MONEY shot: "What is it about working men and women that they find so offensive?"
But there are some folks in Washington who see things differently. When it comes to just about everything we've done to strengthen the middle class and rebuild our economy, almost every Republican in Congress said no. Even where we usually agree, they say no. They think it's better to score political points before an election than actually solve problems. So they said no to help for small businesses. No to middle-class tax cuts. No to unemployment insurance. No to clean energy jobs. No to making college affordable. No to reforming Wall Street. Even as we speak, these guys are saying no to cutting more taxes for small business owners. I mean, come on! Remember when our campaign slogan was "Yes We Can?" These guys are running on "No, We Can't," and proud of it. Really inspiring, huh?

To steal a line from our old friend, Ted Kennedy: what is it about working men and women that they find so offensive?

When we passed a bill earlier this summer to help states save the jobs of hundreds of thousands of teachers, nurses, police officers and firefighters that were about to be laid off, they said "no" to that, too. In fact, the Republican who's already planning to take over as Speaker of the House dismissed them as "government jobs" that weren't worth saving. Not worth saving? These are the people who teach our kids. Who keep our streets safe. Who put their lives on the line for our own. I don't know about you, but I think those jobs are worth saving.

We made sure that bill wouldn't add to the deficit, either. We paid for it by finally closing a ridiculous tax loophole that actually rewarded corporations for shipping jobs and profits overseas. It let them write off the taxes they pay foreign governments - even when they don't pay taxes here. How do you like that - middle class families footing tax breaks for corporations that create jobs somewhere else! Even a lot of America's biggest corporations agreed the loophole should be closed, that it wasn't fair - but the man with the plan to be Speaker is already aiming to open it up again.

Bottom line is, these guys refuse to give up on the economic philosophy they peddled for most of the last decade. You know that philosophy: you cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires; you cut rules for special interests; you cut working folks like you loose to fend for yourselves. They called it the ownership society. What it really boiled down to was: if you couldn't find a job, or afford college, or got dropped by your insurance company - you're on your own.

Well, that philosophy didn't work out so well for working folks. It didn't work out so well for our country. All it did was rack up record deficits and result in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.


I'm not bringing this up to re-litigate the past; I'm bringing it up because I don't want to re-live the past. It would be one thing if Republicans in Washington had new ideas or policies to offer; if they said, you know, we've learned from our mistakes. We'll do things differently this time. But that's not what they're doing. When the leader of their campaign committee was asked on national television what Republicans would do if they took over Congress, he actually said they'd follow "the exact same agenda" as they did before I took office. The exact same agenda.

So basically, they're betting that between now and November, you'll come down with a case of amnesia. They think you'll forget what their agenda did to this country. They think you'll just believe that they've changed. These are the folks whose policies helped devastate our middle class and drive our economy into a ditch. And now they're asking you for the keys back.

Do you want to give them the keys back? Me neither. And do you know why? Because they don't know how to drive! At a time when we're just getting out of the ditch, they'd pop it in reverse, let the special interests ride shotgun, and hit the gas, careening right back into that ditch.

Well, I refuse to go backwards, Milwaukee. And that's the choice America faces this fall. Do we go back to the policies of the past? Or do we move forward? I say we move forward. America always moves forward. And we are going to keep moving forward today.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/09/06/fighting_obama_on_labor_day/index.html
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 05:01 PM
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1. I think I remember that Kennedy speech
About minimum wage, wasn't it? Great words to remember him by. How I wish he could have been around for a few years longer...
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:15 PM
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29. you can probably find it on YouTube
I recall seeing it there a couple of years ago.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 05:03 PM
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2. K and r. That needs to be spread far and wide.
Edited on Mon Sep-06-10 05:04 PM by Kdillard
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 05:11 PM
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3. Sweet. K&R
:woohoo:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 05:12 PM
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4. K&R. Keep this up, Obama!!! n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 05:52 PM
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5. I just caught parts of the speech
very nicely done :thumbsup:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:42 PM
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7. Wow...
I'm pleasantly surprised by this. :thumbsup:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:44 PM
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8. why shouild you be surprised?
I voted for Obama - I LIKE him - I WANT HIM TO SUCCEED but I will *ALWAYS* call BS when I see it - always - that is my nature
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:46 PM
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9. Because this is the first positive post
I've ever seen from you re: Obama.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:48 PM
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10. nonsense
I've made several regarding Obama and his lovely family - you've just seen more criticism lately because he has stumbled badly lately
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 07:09 PM
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11. Like I said,
it's the first positive post I'VE seen from you re: Obama.
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timefortherevolution Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:28 PM
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22. Skittles is right. Enough of the koolaid drinking.
He's doing too little for those who "brung him" and that's what the polls are showing.

No harm in talking about the obvious.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:38 PM
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23. +1000. nt
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Jim_Shorts Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:07 PM
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28. I Agree
I voted for Obama and had high hopes,and just sat there mesmerized after some of his speeches, but the word "CHANGE" now sticks in the back of my throat. If you didn't notice the Juggernaut destroying the middle class is in full gear. Employers have ALL the power and are taking full advantage of it. They didn't do any real reform to bring down health care costs. Banking problems are all still there - Looming. Send my son (who had really high act scores) to college - faggetaboutit. Paul Krugman said that we CAN have an economy without a middle class and thats where we're headed.

We need an F.D.R.(and people to back him) not just someone who gives a great speech.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:29 PM
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14. I'm the same...
...I have posted the "calling him on the BS" stuff as well, and whenever I have, I've made a point of saying "I voted for him...I still believe in his ability to succeed, and I WANT him to succeed."

:patriot:
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:35 PM
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15. Here are links to all three parts of the speech, in case you'd like to watch the whole thing.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:39 PM
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16. Thank you...
I was only able to catch part of it on the replay, and would like to see the entire speech.
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:41 PM
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17. You are welcome.
:hi:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 10:45 PM
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18. THANKS!
:D
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:18 AM
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19. Thanks!
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:16 PM
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6. and the campaign starts in earnest..............n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:21 PM
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12. Yep .... that's bumper sticker worthy. nt
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:25 PM
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13. Excellent! n/t
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:28 AM
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20. "The economic philosophy they peddled for most of the last decade."
He was being gracious. The repukes have been peddling that philosophy for 30 years, come this autumn.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:45 AM
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21. meh....
He gives a good speech, just like during his last campaign. Too bad speeches don't run the country. Too bad speeches won't reform the policies of the last several decades.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:43 PM
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25. When people go to the polls they ask themselves
"Am I better off now than I was the last time I voted?" If the answer is no, as will likely be the case with the majority this November, they are likely to punish the party in power - never mind that the other guys have no ideas and shit on working people at every opportunity.

Making the case that as bad as things are, with the R's they would be worse, isn't much of a strategy, but it's apparently what the Dems are going to run on.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:39 PM
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24. Great talk. Now let's see some action that favors the working people for a Change. nt
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:46 PM
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26. +1000 n/t
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:40 PM
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27. Ask Mel Brooks. "The peasants are revolting". "I'll say. They stink on ice". n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:18 PM
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30. Then why does he keep bending over at EVERY opportunity, letting the GOP determine or alter policy?
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 03:19 PM by Roland99
Feeble Wall St. reform.
Healthcare "reform" that's resulting in rapidly skyrocketing premiums and is eliminating paying for OTC medications via pre-tax HSAs.

Of course, there's the worthless Dem leadership in the Senate that can't be bothered to even think about forcing the GOP to actually filibuster any legislation.



Sounds like a great speech but ACTION, not WORDS is what matters!

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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:56 PM
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31. that's the kind of speakin I can get behind
is that the kind of speakin he can get behind?

Face it, here in the choir we know what is needed, and if not, all we have to do is read a bit. Now is the time to force all the Democratic Representatives to be like Alan Grayson.

It's time to make these folks realize that their jobs depend on our measly little votes.

I guess what I'm trying to say is. HERE WE GO AGAIN

PEACE
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Stellar Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 04:11 PM
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32. I'm not giving up on something for nothing.
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 04:12 PM by Stellar
Just so the party of NO can take over again and give everything back to the rich. Now they want to take social security back? Hell no!!!

It's time to wake up people. What have republicans done for twenty months. NOTHING, and I do mean nothing!
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