Ninga
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:08 AM
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"it takes a Village" which means more than 1 or 2 great speeches. It means |
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sending out a flood of surrogates to hammer, hammer, hammer the airwaves with positive talking points.
Who are these magical surrogates? What are their names? Where are they hiding? does our dear President have them stuffed into a drawer getting moldy from not being circulated in the air?
The GOP gives lessons year in and year out on how to "frame" anything the Dems propose. The climate we find ourselves in should not be a surprise.
So Obama floated a infrastructure bill that is already "dead in the water?". Really?? The law of political physics is that it takes more tools than a single hammer to build a strong political platform.
Granholm- articulate, quick, knowledgeable and term limited and thus free to be used.
Gary Hart? Bob Kerry? Bill Bradley? Gloria Steinam? Russell Simmons? Tavis Smiley? Rep Shelia Jackson Lee? Howard Dean?
The barrel is loaded with strong, wonderful voices who can help carry the water...an avalanche to overrun the tired, white wrinkled faces that scold and berate and say no,no, no,
My head hurts and wants to explode at the sheer stupidity of overlooking the obvious.
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:16 AM
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1. Doesn't it take a village to raise a child? |
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I've never heard the line used in the context of political stomping.
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Ninga
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:29 AM
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3. It is a metaphor for anything or any process that benefits from having as much |
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help or support as possible.
I am disappointed in the fact that this White House has not used the bully pulpit nor surrogates to it's advantage.
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:32 AM
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5. I]m having a hard time making the village metaphor work |
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for using surrogates and bully pulpit. Besides....it seems bullying ever point every time is hardly the trademark of Obama. That's more a Boehner trait.
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:50 AM
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7. The term bully pulpit has a specific meaning. |
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Noun:
" a public office of sufficiently high rank that it provides the holder with an opportunity to speak out and be listened to on any matter". The American Presidency is a bully pulpit.
My OP suggests that neither this President nor his highly visible supporters have taken the mandate given to him in 2008, and used it to his advantage on the airwaves.
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Tue Sep-07-10 11:50 AM
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Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 11:52 AM by Sheepshank
but apparently not as frequently or with as much fervor as you personally would liked to have happen.
eta: IMO, I would hate to have every speech or every public address feel like a revival. It tends to lose it's impact and turn me off. The recent speech in Milwaukee worked in part because it is a refreshing move toward a particular audience.
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Tue Sep-07-10 12:01 PM
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OP's abusing the metaphor.
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:19 AM
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2. I think the Party as an institution is having issues. |
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It became a facade instead of being the real.
It became obsessed with not being Labeled 'liberal' or 'extreme' on the Left Spectrum. It folded in ideas from conservatives That has created a serious identity crisis.
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:30 AM
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:48 AM
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6. I agree that he needs more surrogates out there and I am sure they will be |
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I really disagree with mot of your list. Howard Dean can do a wonderful job. I wished that Kerry had picked Hart as VP, which could have emphasized Kerry's own anti-terrorism credentials. Of the others, Smiley is likely more valuable as an independent journalist. Bob Kerrey has always been a lose cannon. He was awful as a Kerry surrogate, for whom he clearly had deep respect and friendship. He was beyond awful as a surrogate for HRC - speaking of modrassahs. Bill Bradley was an incredible Senator, but his strength was not campaigning. You also are picking many people who speak to the core of our base. They should be out there, but you need people who can reach the people in the middle.
I have also seen Chris Van Hollen, who can be excellent - as he was this morning explaining the small business tax cuts paid for by getting rid of the tax loophole that rewards companies that sent jobs overseas. I also think that Dick Durbin, John Kerry and Debbie Wasserman Schultz have all been excellent in earlier campaigns. Though for most Democrats, it wouldn't be fun, Kerry was outstanding even in Fox appearances as an Obama advocate.
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:52 AM
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8. I like your list and where the heck are their voices?... |
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Tue Sep-07-10 02:46 PM
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14. The season is only starting - those are some of the voices that I would hope to hear |
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I think that some of them were on well deserved vacations - the last year and a half have been intense. Kerry was also in both Pakistan (as the first high ranking official after the flood) and in Afghanistan, where he was again needed by Obama - as well as for his own oversight.
I did leave one important voice out - Biden, who has been much better than the mockers are willing to admit. (I am beginning to think that looking at who the media tries to dismiss via mocking or ignoring, might be a way to find people usually saying the right thing.)
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:52 AM
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9. That was the title of Hillary's book. What does it have to do with Obama |
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and the midterm elections?
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Tue Sep-07-10 09:59 AM
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10. It has everything to do with Obama and the midterm elections. The Obama |
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White House has not put forth a continued effort of surrogates to underscore the programs and accomplishments of this President. They have let the GOP define him with too much down time without strong surrogates out there negating every "no" five minutes after it was said.
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Tue Sep-07-10 04:28 PM
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15. Essetiantely my OP is about the lack of many voices to carry the President's message. |
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Where are they and who are they? It takes a strong team of people, advisors, and staff (surrogates) to hit the air waves day after day after day in full support of his proposals. Hense, my take on "it takes a Village".
Please name who they are.?
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Tue Sep-07-10 10:35 AM
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11. The surrogates are beating him up too |
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Because you know, they wouldn't want to be "cheerleaders" or anything.
Others are running against the programs that kept us from a depression.
Our party sucks.
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Tue Sep-07-10 04:30 PM
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16. I'm guessing that they're not the sad sacks sending endless streams of downer bullshit |
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into liberal spaces.
Fucking jeeeeez-us.
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