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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 05:52 AM
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Not a mention of the President's speech on Morning Joe today
Not a word, nada, silence, crickets . . .

Interesting.



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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 05:54 AM
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1. My question is
why waste time watching Morning Joe?
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 05:55 AM
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2. Because being informed means not only listening to people with whom I agree
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:10 AM
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6. I would agree if these were actual news programs, but
I don't consider them to be so. They are entertainment with a bit of news used as topic material, these are not serious discussions of issues.

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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:35 AM
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7. Whether they are serious or not or whether it's news or not, it has tremendous influence
and provides great insight into how various political players are thinking and operating, so I pay attention to it.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:38 AM
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9. Doesn't influence me at all
not one little bit as I won't waste my time on their drivel..


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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:43 AM
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11. I wasn't talking about whether it influences you
There's a bigger world out there of people who ARE influenced by this and I choose not to pretend that it doesn't exist. Knowing how other people think and what their positions are helps to make me better informed.

To each his own.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:34 AM
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13. You don't watch it to kill it, hopefully ...
You don't get any kind of "information" from this show, you only get some kind of twisted afterschool special on abusive men controlling submissive people, with a highly partisan republican political message ...

I TRIED to watch this show early on, but the painfully superficial "conservative" slant to EVERYTHING aside, I want to get in my car and drive to NYC, walk into the room and beat the ever loving crape out Scarboro ...

I now make a point of never watching it (while VERY much wanting to provide MSNBC the ratings) because I want the show to flunk out and him to get canned ...

THAT is why you should not watch it ...
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:14 AM
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18. Thank you for your input
You have every right to decide what you will and will not watch and I will do the same.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 05:59 AM
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3. Lawrence O'Donnell and Ezra Klein just to mention a couple of reasons
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:00 AM
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4. Take heart in the fact it makes him look stupid. It's not like
it didn't happen or wasn't roundly applauded by most everyone else.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:03 AM
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5. they just showed a clip
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 06:04 AM by DrDan
actually, a several clips
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:37 AM
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8. An hour into the program
And the framework was all about Boehner, not the substance of the speech.

Shallow, ignorant coverage. But it helps to demonstrates just how powerful the speech was since the Morning Joe folks couldn't figure out how to deal with it in their usual snarky, manipulative way so they just ignored it.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 01:15 PM
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23. couple of clips - the second was about boner - the first about the proposed tax incentives
I am sure you will not see the first on faux. The second perhaps . . . but not the tax proposals.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:40 AM
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10. Just before I went over to C-SPAN...
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 06:40 AM by rasputin1952
they were talking about how attacking Boehner wouldn't work because not many people knew of Boehner, (stupid). Then, one of them made the very real point, this speech was in OH...:D

I think the only dumber am crew is Fox and Friends...and it's hard to reach the level of stupidity over there.

Some credit is due Mika though, she tries to get some news out, but Scarborough acts like a 3yo making faces, interrupting, and spinning in his chair...the man is a cretin.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:03 AM
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12. He was quite obnoxious on the subject of mentioning obesity. He
said (to paraphrase) the next one to mention obesity would be fired..Mika just looked at him. I watched from six and did notice they were very subdued and seemed off kilter early in the show. They then started in immediately on the Florida Quaran situation and I had to leave the show. I knew I'd miss it and was dying to hear what Ford had to say. Then the guy from Politico comes on to discuss the Dems "terrible numbers." Better off at Publix...LOL.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:38 AM
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14. Scarborough doesn't like the "obesity" discussions because of his fat head.
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 07:39 AM by rasputin1952
the man is truly an idiot. I watch it when I get up until C_SPAN comes on, and it's only for the "entertainment" value. I often chuckle at the abject stupidity of Scarborough and his minions. Then again, they have Katrina vanden Heuval on quite often and she almost always counters JS with a logical discussion, while Scarborough opens his mouth and proves he's a moron.

I saw a while back when Mika's father was on and called JS shallow....:rofl:
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MattyGroves Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:29 AM
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16. The obesity "battle" is a running "gag" just like references to Mika's "morning helper".
Although I don't understand why network management would effectively allow someone to mock news stories on a topic that's pretty important.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:41 AM
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15. Why does anyone watch Morning Ho? n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:41 AM
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17. I wish they would give Rachel the morning show
scarface's show is the worst on MSNBC
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:18 AM
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19. I think we can agree that Joe isn't America's friend. nt
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:53 AM
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20. If it ain't negative to Dems, Joe ain't talking it about it. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:12 AM
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21. Yes there was. They pretty much mocked Obama for going after Boehner.
The only part of his speech they talked about was how ridiculous it was for him to go after someone who nobody knows. Buchanan did his usual thing about how Obama shouldn't be "punching down," Joe and Mark Halperin (whose op-ed Joe read on this subject) agreed that it's the wrong tactic for Obama to attack Boehner when he may very well end up having to work with him as Majority Leader, and they just kept bashing the speech.

But John Heilmann thought it was the RIGHT thing to do-to make Boehner his foil and to clarify the differences between him and the Dems. and their attitudes on tax cuts for the rich.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:32 AM
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24. Well, doesn't that make them the idiots in the room since
Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 12:33 AM by Cha
Pres Obama pointed out what he wanted to do for the country and boehner was against it. If the President hadn't gone after boehner he would be remiss in his job and that would be just fine with the sniveling, jealous republicons.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:25 AM
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22. Congrats on 600 posts!
:toast: :hi:
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