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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:53 AM
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Obama: choosing Biden may have been my best presidential decision
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 08:07 AM by impik
Awesome long feature about Joe Biden:




For most of his adult life, Biden has been selling himself. In 2008, he began selling Barack Obama. The vice presidency is a perfectly respectable office, to be sure, but historically it has been a ticket more often to obscurity than to distinction. It has few official duties or responsibilities that rise above the ceremonial. It was most famously described by Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s two-term VP, John Nance Garner, as being worth less than “a bucket of warm piss.” For a man of Biden’s early promise and abiding energy, it is a comedown. But midway through the administration’s first term, he seems to be making it work.

“I was talking to the president about this just the other day,” said David Axelrod, one of Obama’s senior advisers. “He was saying that choosing Joe was really the first presidential decision he made, and that as time goes on, he’s more and more convinced it may have been his best.”

Much much more:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/10/the-salesman/8226/1/
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:56 AM
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1. It was a really good one.
I always liked Biden but after the whole Afghanistan saga with McChrystal I just really respect him.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:57 AM
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2. I think that says a lot about his Presidential decisions. (sadly)
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:32 AM
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4. why, what's wrong with biden?
:shrug:
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:38 AM
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5. ...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:41 AM
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6. Biden represents a state where the biggest employers are credit card companies.
Big fucking shock then that he'd actually represent his constituents.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:21 AM
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9. A six year old hatchet piece from a hatchet site?
Fail.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:50 AM
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11. That's all they got.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:07 AM
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13. Who the hell is they?
I love Pres. Obama. I just happen to think Biden as VP was a shitty decision.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:12 PM
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18. Besides those reasons in the article you posted
why do you think Biden is a bad choice? No snark BTW I am honestly asking you.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:58 PM
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25. Because he has ran for Pres. numerous times....
and no one was interested. Plus he's too old.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:58 PM
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24. Trolling for call-outs
Please move on to the next trick.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:51 AM
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12. Really sad....
Nonsense.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:25 PM
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15. Yes, it says he makes intelligent ones..happily.
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:38 PM
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21. Hey, at least he's no longer in a position to do much damage in the Senate. I'm delighted...
... and Glad Obama is young and healthy.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:54 PM
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34. It says more about your dismissive position.
Biden's been at public service for some time.

He knows the global map.

He knows how to navigate a tough domestic neighborhood.

He's the real deal and a huge plus for this president.

You've obviously missed some key points in your assessment.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:17 AM
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3. I beg to differ. n/t
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:01 AM
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7. What would be even better is if the roles were reversed
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:49 AM
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10. Heee. Love me some bitterness in the morning
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:09 AM
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14. me too. i wonder what it's like. wake up, eat breakfast, curse the administration, grind teeth.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 10:10 AM by dionysus
rinse, repeat
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:58 PM
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26. What's amazing is that it follows a pattern that is the antithesis of what I consider progressive.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:18 PM
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29. priceless
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:28 PM
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16. No it wouldn't.. Obama is the President and he chose Biden
to be his VP. I love the reality of this!
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:12 PM
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36. I would had been happy either way
I've always like me some Joe


I could not stand Edwards or Clinton so that left Joe & Obama
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:17 AM
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8. How does the same person who picks Biden pick Rahm, ughhh.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:59 PM
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17. Easy. Incoherent ideology.
Aka pragmatism. Hey whatever is easiest man. No worries.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:50 PM
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23. A desire to be surrounded by diverse viewpoints, not a Bush-style echo chamber.
Which is exactly what he said he would do.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:19 PM
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19. Very nice
and hopefully this will put a stop to the nonsensical speculations about Obama dropping Biden in 2012.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:16 PM
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27. I would personally be really disappointed with Obama if he did that.
I like my VP very much and don't want him replaced!
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:32 PM
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20. By far his best choice. I love Biden and don't care what people say! Go Joe! n/t
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 02:32 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:44 PM
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22. Obama/Biden is a spectacular ticket. I'm very happy the Pres chose Joe. nt
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:19 PM
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28. Definitely one of of the many good decisions he's made.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:24 PM
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30. I agree- Biden calmed DC with "the kid is alright"
since then he has been an absolute treat since he IS my father in law....and hilarious
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:42 PM
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31. This is a big fucking deal.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:50 PM
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32. I don't know about his 'best' but it's a damn good one! n/t
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 09:00 PM by Fire1
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:52 PM
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33. Obama made a great choice with Biden, who is
one of the Great Democrats.

Biden's as good as Cheney was bad, and that makes Biden mighty damn good.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:58 PM
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35. watching him tonight on rachel i totally agree
he talked about Obama like he respected and admired him hugely. And he said what needed to be said about the coming mid terms and the dems getting tougher. He admitted he gets into trouble for talking too much and said i am a fighter and i am not giving up.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:18 PM
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37. Joe's a great guy.
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