Elizabeth Warren Didn't Want Permanent Appointment To CFPB: Frank

[POAS]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/16/warren-didnt-want-permane_n_719932.html


Ryan Grim
[e-mail] | HuffPost Reporting

Elizabeth Warren made it clear to the White House while it was debating her nomination to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that she was not interested in a five-year term to run the agency. Barney Frank, a Warren ally, delivered that message to the White House, he told HuffPost in an interview Thursday.

"She always said she didn't want to be there as a permanent director. Some of the liberals are worried about it. It's almost an insult to Elizabeth. She wouldn't take this if there was the slightest impediment to her doing the job," he said.

An administration official said that Warren will be officially named on Friday as an "assistant to the president," the same title that Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and other top officials hold, as well as a special adviser to the Treasury, overseeing the establishment of the CFPB.

There were extensive and nuanced discussions with the White House, said a source familiar with them, and the interim nomination emerged as her favored choice, as Frank says, but she has still not foreclosed the option of a full nomination or told the administration that she would flatly refuse one.

[HughMoran]

1. please don't post facts

they upset people.

[Cha]

39. Yeah, it's very upsetting..

:bounce: :D :7 B-) O8) :evilgrin: :party: :toast: :fistbump: :pals: :headbang: :popcorn: :patriot: :patriot: :hi:

[geek tragedy]

2. No one tell the Firebaggers. nt

[dionysus]

24. or the treebaggers.

[Aramchek]

54. fleabaggers?

[DevonRex]

65. Or the fudfuckers.

[verges]

82. or Jimmy Thudpucker. nt

[Utopian Leftist]

95. How about the PEE partiers?

After all, they do believe in "trickle-down" economics.

They might as well be Pee Partiers.

[impik]

3. Poor professional left...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. Under the bus goes Barney.

Not like they didn't throw him under the bus before though.

[whistler162]

5. Yup and that is one big purple stain!

[impik]

6. "It's almost an insult to Elizabeth"

Almost????

[vaberella]

8. Isn't it just. n/t

[Name removed]

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[NanceGreggs]

9. Countdown now started ...

... ten minutes and counting before the Barney Frank LIES to Cover-Up for WH Snubbing of Warren threads start showing up.

[POAS]

11. Your such an optimist Nance...

I like that about you!

[NanceGreggs]

26. Ha, ha ...

... turns out I was right - but the Barney is a Liar comments are in another thread on the same topic.

[POAS]

30. They are following the following directive

[Bobbie Jo]

51. LOL

:rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

88. OMG! I have to steal that!

:rofl:

[JDPriestly]

68. Elizabeth Warren thinks like a lawyer. That's all this means.

Whether it is true or not will soon be obvious. I tend to think it is true.

Elizabeth Warren plays better chess than Obama, I suspect.

[sallyseven]

100. Barney doesn't lie.

Shut your mouth.

[NanceGreggs]

103. I'm not the one calling him a liar ...

You have me confused with a member of the Pretzel Brigade - who are currently (and predictably) calling him (and anyone who disagrees with their twisted logic) a liar.

So few buses, so many bodies to be thrown thereunder. Barney is just the latest casualty hereabouts.

[w4rma]

10. Then she should have said something sooner, rather than leaving everyone hanging for months. (nt)

[lillypaddle]

12. It's Obama's fault!

No it isn't. It's Elizabeth Warren's fault!

[w4rma]

13. What is who's fault? Don't be a jerk. (nt)

[POAS]

15. Jerks throw people they were supporting under the bus

I know who that shoe fits.

[w4rma]

16. Who would that be? I'm not angry at anyone over this. (nt)

[POAS]

19. People have been throwing her under the bus all day.

People who at many occasions called for her to get the position and now are turning on her.

[dionysus]

25. you can't quit outrage cold turkey! think of their heart health.

[vaberella]

33. Links...please provide some links.

I need the lulz. :D

[POAS]

52. Well this one was

a beauty

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9146904&mesg_id=9146904

[SoxFan]

22. Stop trolling for call-outs

A lot of this going on lately. Almost makes me wonder if there's a Crisis or something...

[MineralMan]

104. Could have fooled me. Just a couple of posts up, you seemed

pretty angry at Warren herself. She doesn't owe you a damned thing. It's her career. It's her choice. Neither you nor I have anything to say about her decisions. Feh!

[lillypaddle]

58. guess I needed the sarcasm thingee n/t

[POAS]

60. Nope not needed, besides

it's fun to see who gets it, who doesn't and sometimes who is pretending not to get it!

[POAS]

14. You think she should have violated

the confidentiality of the negotiating process? For what? To satisfy some impatient speculators and know-it-alls on the internet.

Nice try at throwing Warren under the bus but it won't wash!

[w4rma]

17. Someone probably should have mentioned this earlier. As long as she is somewhere where she

believes that she will have a whole lot of influence, I'm happy.

[POAS]

20. I am also pleased and I am still hopeful

that while she is working a crating the agency she changes her mind about a 5 year appointment but in the end that will be her choice and people should respect that.

[OregonBlue]

43. She's not allowed to mention it. It's part of the process and nominees or even those under

consideration don't go around spouting about what they are negotiating for. At least they don't if they have class and in my mind, this woman has nothing but class.

[KoKo]

62. Someone posted this yesterday from Mike Lux...friend of Warrne....Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9145058

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Original message
"A Home Run for Our Side!" Open Left's Mike Lux has positive take on Warren Appt.

Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 11:12 AM by KoKo
(Since Mike Lux is a Lobbyist for Progressives and was part of Obama/Biden Transition Team...I'll take him at his word that the Warren Compromise is a good thing. I was critical of the announcement since I thought it was "Window Dressing" and Warren would be under Geithner's thumb. Lux says it's not "window dressing" and he's been pretty good with his observations on progressive actions or non actions by this Admin., so far)

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A home run for our side
by: Mike Lux
Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 10:31

I have beaten up on the Obama White House enough that I'm no longer very welcome by many of the top staffers there, and on no issue have I been tougher on them than on their policies regarding dealing with the biggest banks and the TARP program. This morning, though, I am all smiles, delighted to my core, because the reports, confirmed multiple times, about the appointment of Elizabeth Warren are a big home run.

more at link...

[phleshdef]

23. Give it up. Most of the country isn't even paying attention to this shit.

She does not, nor did she ever owe anyone an explanation for anything.

[JDPriestly]

70. They soon will.

Elizabeth Warren is great on TV. She is both compassionate and ethical. She answers the questions asked. Wow! What a refreshing guest she will be. Can't wait to see her on the shows intended for women.

[phleshdef]

108. I just mean the public isn't paying attention to all the "inside baseball" politics.

Most people look at this and think "hey, the President appointed someone to do something". They won't even bother to see what that agency even does. I think we all let our own obsession with politics cloud our judgement when it comes to gauging what the general populace is thinking or worrying about.

[MineralMan]

28. Should she have? Should she have phoned you to let you know?

Announcements are made when announcements are ready. Decisions are made by all sorts of people when they have the facts they need to make them. Your desire to have that processed hurried is not really much of a concern. If you want a hand in making decisions, now's the time to start thinking about running for office in 2012.

[vaberella]

32. Put the liberal base on speed dial. You guys kill me.

Maybe the Obama admin got a kick out of seeing you guys make a fool of yourselves while they hash out the details. This is what happens when people run on little information but think they know it all. Sometimes we're not privy to what's going on in the White House.

On a final note...you do know that Elizabeth Warren is bound to a code so it's like she can disclose information until everything is finalized and allowed to be public.

[Cha]

42. No, they did it just right..they're running the country not

the internetz.

[azmouse]

18. aawwwww man....

Now so many will have to find something else to be outraged about.

How dare you post facts?! :evilgrin:

[POAS]

21. I do that because I am an

inconsiderate jerk.

[Cha]

41. And, because you

can! }(

[Binka]

87. Finally You Speak The Truth! n/t

[Cha]

101. And, you always speak the truth, POAS!

:D :hi:

[Spazito]

27. Further proof, as if it is needed, that she is one very smart woman...

doing it this way, Ms. Warren has the power to set up the agency she wants the way she envisioned it when she first championed it and that is key, imo. She will get the job done and then decide whether she wishes to stand for nomination or move on to other interests.

Thanks for posting this, it is much appreciated.

Recommended.

[Tarheel_Dem]

29. You're rationalizing an injustice of epic proportions. DU told me she's

running cover for an evil and corrupt White House. On a serious note, it's probably healthy to have some skepticism after the Bush years, but what we're witnessing here at DU is a derangement of sorts. And I gotta tell you, some of my "progressive" allies have begun to scare me just a bit, provided they are who they say they are. Although, anything's possible on the internetz. :scared:

[dionysus]

31. banky required?

:evilgrin:

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. Whip it out!

:rofl:

[dionysus]

38. for you, fellow traveller;

sleep well

[Tarheel_Dem]

40. I feel so much better now. You always know when to whip out banky.

:hug:

[vaberella]

35. Lulz. n/t

[Spazito]

36. LOL, it really has been "up=down" now that Ms. Warren...

will be appointed and, if the reports are correct, it will happen tomorrow. On hearing the news of her pending appointment, I thought there would be overwhelming agreement on DU, a rare occurrence these days, that it was good news. Apparently I was wrong, lol.

[Tarheel_Dem]

37. Haven't you heard? We don't celebrate Democratic victories here anymore.

That's so 2008, when the "d" in DU still stood for Democratic. Try to keep up, please! :rofl:

[SeattleGirl]

45. ROFL!

:rofl:

[JDPriestly]

72. Are you serious, Tarheel_Dem?

Elizabeth Warren knows precisely what she is doing.

And, either way she wins.

Let's say that Frank is right and these were her terms. She is free to go and say what she wants about her experience in the White House if things do not go well.

Let's say that Frank is wrong and these terms were imposed on her. She can call the bluff of those in both parties that refused to support her for the real deal and through confirmation by winning the support of the American people for her efforts.

As I said, either way, Elizabeth Warren wins this one hands down.

[Zenlitened]

44. Well, that's perplexing.

...but she has still not foreclosed the option of a full nomination or told the administration that she would flatly refuse one.

:shrug:

[Tarheel_Dem]

46. I'm sure....

:rofl:

[Zenlitened]

47. You're sure a what?

LOL :D

:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. That's not very "Zen" of you. Get it? "Zen"?......

:rofl:

[Zenlitened]

49. But it is thoroughly "lite," wouldn't you agree!

[POAS]

50. Smart!

Holding out options for the future while testing the waters from the inside.

[flamingdem]

53. I am a cheerleader for Elizabeth Warren, yay! nt

[quiet.american]

55. K&R. It was insulting to see blogs treating Warren as though she's unable to speak up for herself.

She's supposed to implement an enormously important new agency, yet is not supposed to have the intelligence and presence of mind to speak up for herself every step along the way.

That really is insulting when thinking about it.

[vaberella]

57. It wasn't just blogs. Many "supporters" of Warren on DU did the same.

They made her out to be some chump.

[POAS]

61. Oh my, I am shocked to hear this.

I never would have imagined something like that happening on Democratic Underground, a gathering place for supporters of the Democratic Party and especially not right before an important election when we all should be pulling together to make sure the Republicans don't regain a majority in Congress.

I am shocked.

[w4rma]

63. It's insulting to her that the people who don't want her in there are attacking her supporters for

wanting her in there and rallying to her and her department.

The right-wing (including corporatist DLCers) are very Orwellian like that.

[quiet.american]

64. I sure hope that's not going on here. Because she's terrific and this is just wonderful.

I still remember discovering her on PBS's NOW, when it was first hosted by Bill Moyers, and thinking, "Wow, we need her in government, but it will never happen."

Well, never say never! The day is here!

[SunsetDreams]

56. K&R!

[JTFrog]

59. .

:kick:

[Cha]

66. President Obama is introducing her now in the

Rose Garden!

[JDPriestly]

67. Assuming this is true, it is a wise move on Elizabeth Warren's part.

She takes the job, but does not lose her job at Harvard. This insures that she will have the independence to say what she believes is right. She can leave her post more easily if she is not treated correctly by others in the administration.

[Better Believe It]

69. So Warren couldn't tell her close friend Obama she didn't want the job and had to use Barney Frank

to let Obama know her intentions.

Sure.

Of course.

I'll buy that.

Anyone want to sell me a nice bridge in Brooklyn or some tower in Paris?

[jenmito]

71. Why don't you read her own words?:

"Over the past several weeks, the President and I have had extensive conversations about the vital importance of consumer financial protection.

The President asked me, and I enthusiastically agreed, to serve as an Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. He has also asked me to take on the job to get the new CFPB started—right now. The President and I are committed to the same vision on CFPB, and I am confident that I will have the tools I need to get the job done..."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/09/17/fighting-protect-consumers

[Better Believe It]

73. I did. So how much are you asking for that bridge in Brooklyn?

"Elizabeth Warren made it clear to the White House while it was debating her nomination to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that she was not interested in a five-year term to run the agency. Barney Frank, a Warren ally, delivered that message to the White House, he told HuffPost in an interview Thursday."

[jenmito]

77. Why do you refuse to read and believe HER words-what SHE said herself? n/t

[DevonRex]

84. Jen, if you reply to him more than once he'll say you're stalking him.

:rofl:

[jenmito]

86. I saw that.

:rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

93. ....

:rofl:

[NJmaverick]

92. I find it unseemly that you dismiss good people as liars

simply because what they say doesn't fit into your agenda (an agenda that appears to be focused on reducing support for the President).

[DevonRex]

94. I guess if I tell one sister to tell another sister something, then

that means we're not really sisters. I've been doing that my entire life. Like, "Alice, will you tell Sandy that I'll be late to the party tonight?" I guess Sandy's not my sister. Who knew?

[Cha]

78. Reading comprehension is difficult

for some..and others would rather talk about stupid bridges in Brooklyn than acknowledge reality.

[jenmito]

79. It sure looks that way.

I'm not surprised, though.

[Name removed]

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[Better Believe It]

80. I supported Obama. Who did you support in the election if you don't mind me asking.

[MineralMan]

106. I have no evidence of that, other than your words. Since you don't

appear to believe the words of Elizabeth Warren, why should I believe that you supported Obama?

[DevonRex]

85. If you answer him he'll say you're a stalker.

:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[DevonRex]

83. That's hilarious. nt

[HughMoran]

89. Oh dear god - please oh please put me on ignore too!!!

Please?

[DevonRex]

90. Hugh, if you post it twice he'll do it.

Because that means you're a stalker. :evilgrin: :rofl:

Edited because I'm leaving out whole words today for some reason. Sheesh.

[HughMoran]

91. .

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

76. P.S. This is the stupidest, most blatant example of shit stirring for no

other reason than shit stirring that I have ever seen.

[MineralMan]

105. To be quite frank, you are not in a position to know what she told

Obama or Barney Frank. You are a minor player on an internet discussion forum (or maybe more than one). That is all. I'm in exactly the same position. Elizabeth Warren owes you no explanation of anything. She makes her own career choices without our input. Do you truly believe that you are owed something from her? Truly?

What is truly fascinating to me is that so many people kept claiming that she'd never be appointed to anything, and that President Obama would punt. Now that she IS appointed, the same people turn on her as though she betrayed them. How very strange! I can't think of any reason for such a turnabout...well...actually I can, but I won't voice my thoughts. I'm not important enough to matter in such affairs.

I'm so pleased that Warren has this appointment. I did not know how this would go. It seems to have gone in a very good direction. I would think that all liberals and progressives would be shouting in praise of this wise decision by President Obama. Apparently, that is not to be, and so be it.

[Better Believe It]

96. So who will President Obama pick to direct the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau?

Now that we know Elizabeth Warren "doesn't want the job"?

[OregonBlue]

97. Obama Derangement Syndrome on steriods!! Not even her own words will convince some people.

[Better Believe It]

98. You're not answering the question. Who do you think Obama will pick to head up the agency?

We now know it won't be Warren.

[ClarkUSA]

99. "We now know it won't be Warren." How do you "know" that?

Gee, what are the odds that an anonymous blogger would know more than Senator Barney Frank about Elizabeth Warren? :eyes:


Fact check (quoted from the OP):

"she has still not foreclosed the option of a full nomination or told the administration that she would flatly refuse one"

[MineralMan]

102. You just can't let this go, can you? You don't seem able to

accept that people have reasons to want the job of creating an agency, but don't want to run it for five years. Makes perfect sense to me, and it's Elizabeth Warren's decision, isn't it. Do you really suppose that she cares what some random DUer thinks about her decision? Now, that seems very unlikely.

If you're trying to build controversy, you've succeeded. If you're trying to promote progressive goals, you have failed.

Seeya!

[MineralMan]

107. I don't know. You don't know. I imagine that even President Obama

doesn't know at this point. When the time comes to make that decision, I'm sure he'll call you up to make sure his choice meets with your approval, though. You've been such a supporter of President Obama, after all. Perhaps he'll even ask for your advice. :rofl: