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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:21 AM
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The great switcheroo ?
President Obama has been in office almost 2 years now. The unemployment and the bad economy belong to him - not George W Bush or the Republicans.

Although this President may have saved us from another Great Depression, he gets no credit for that. He only gets the blame from the Republicans. Whether or not the voters agree with them, we will not know until November 3rd.

If the Repubs do win, they will have successfully completed one of the greatest reverses in American history. In less than 2 years, they will have managed to take a disaster of their own making and put it squarely on the shoulders of the person that succeeded them in office.

Is that really going to happen?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:26 AM
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1. 1 year 7.8 months
isn't nearly long enough to fix the disaster that AWOL Bush left this country in.

it will take 2 - 3 more years to get us back on track.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:50 AM
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5. One of the most common mantras during the 2008 elections was "who would want to have to clean up
after the Bush Administration? That is going to be impossible" or any similar paraphrases of the same point meaning - what an impossible job the next President is going to have. Most people knew that before Obama was even elected.

I do think there is a significant percentage of the American people who realized that and are giving President Obama some time.

What has been surprising is not that the RW/Republican/Teabagger crowd never even gave him until the inauguration to try to start fixing things but the noisy group on the left who essentially did the same thing.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:25 AM
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9. You're EXACTLY right!
The left has been as hard or harder on him than the right. The "all or nothing" crowd is going to turn our President into a redo of the Carter administration. Give the man some time! He's GOT this!!
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:31 AM
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10. The left is a disgrace. The left destroyed this president, not the right
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:43 AM
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15. Oh please, don't inflate their egos.
Opposition to the president from the left is negligible. Polls show 90%+ of Democrats approve of the president's job performance, the whiners just have a giant megaphone in the internet.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:30 AM
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2. Spin always
makes me dizzy.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:40 AM
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3. Mid-terms matter! Vote or it's Bush redux!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:48 AM
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4. Oh good grief, read history it isn't anything new!
1964--LBJ wins huge landslide and brings in huge Dem majorities, 1966--Dems lose 46 house seats and several senate seats.

1936--FDR wins huge landslide--1938 GOP wins 78 house seats, numerous senate seats

1956--IKE wins big re-election victory--1958--Dems win 48 house seats and 16! Senate seats

1992--Clinton wins presidency for dems for first time in 16 years. 1994--Dems lose control of house for first time nearly 50 years--loss of 54 seats and several senate seats, senate goes to GOP.

I could go on and on...going back to the 19th century if you want. Did you know Dems picked up seats in 1862 during the civil war? and everybody thought, what a setback to Lincoln and the GOP and there was talk of replacing Lincoln in 1864?

I know how some here want to pin all of this on Obama, and yes the economy isn't yet producing the jobs it should (though recent evidence seems to be that there will not be a double dip recession)and the in-party always gets blamed. But to say this is one of the great reversals in history is ignorant.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:58 AM
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7. So soon after an economic disaster of this proportion?
The only example you give above that might compare would be Lincoln.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:08 AM
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8. and FDR....this is nothing new
The American people are amazingly dumb sometimes
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:36 AM
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11.  You really expected that Obama would turn around the economy
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 10:37 AM by WI_DEM
in a year and a half from what he inherited? You know what? FDR inherited a huge mess and we really didn't get out of the depression until World War II. In fact, we had another dip in 1938 which brought the unemployment rate back up to 18%. Are things tough? Sure. Are things better than when he came into office--of course and most economists would agree on that. Is the recovery slow--yes. Is this mid-year going to have the president's party lose ground? of course because that is traditionally what happens. Might we lose one or both houses of congress? maybe, but that has happened before too.

Reversals? well maybe FDR was able to get his program through congress because there weren't even enough republicans to filibuster him.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:51 AM
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12. He didn't say that
He said that if the Repukes had been at the helm of the Titanic, their Media Machine would have successfully passed off the blame to the guys who came to rescue the people in the water.
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:57 AM
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6. switcheroo
yes ... people have short memories ....
Nov 3rd will be telling
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:01 AM
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13. with your help...
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:37 AM
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14. sorry but GDP numbers disagree with you completly.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:44 AM
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16. You're wrong. Many more people blame Bush and the Repubs. for the economy than
blame Obama. Look at some polls. Just yesterday there was a thread that had two new polls showing just what I said.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:46 AM
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17. You're attacking Obama and apologizing for Bush.
Fuck that shit.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:21 PM
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18. You lie!
:-)
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discopants Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 03:36 PM
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19. If McCain had won, all of it would be blamed on Clinton...
... and the Democratic majority in Congress.


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