The Big Dog's got it right:

[kpete]

The Big Dog's got it right:

Clinton told Bob Schieffer on CBS’s “Face the Nation” that the conservative wave sweeping the country “reflects the feeling of a lot of Americans that they are getting the shaft.”

“The people who caused these problems, first of all the banks that were responsible for the financial meltdown, they got well again and everybody’s got money again whose in that business. But ordinary people don’t. And they think the government didn’t exercise appropriate oversight, everybody there still got a job, and health insurance and can make a home mortgage payment and send their kids to college and they can't. So, there is a general revolt against bigness which in the case of the Republicans is always directed more against the government than private sector,” Clinton said. “It’s totally understandable.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0910/Clinton_gets_the_tea_party_movement.html

[xchrom]

1. My love/hate affair with Clinton continues.

I would add -- it's not what the people 'think' -- it's what they know.

[Fire1]

5. "love hate affair," I know what you mean. n/t

[golfguru]

2. We need another president Clinton

Job creation broke all records under both terms of Bill Clinton.
Over 11% jobs expansion in both terms! That is more than under
Reagan who expanded jobs by 10%.

[DURHAM D]

8. Yep. All we need is someone who can understand and then communicate

that they understand middle America is being abused.

Then they need to develop an over-arching narrative about what they are doing to fix it.

Then they need to sell it to us.

This is known as a LEADER.

We are drowning out here and the Democratic leadership is not giving us anything to work with.

It does need to be someone who thinks and talks like Clinton.

[ProSense]

9. Clinton: Losing House Would Help Obama in 2012

Clinton: Losing House Would Help Obama in 2012

This is known as a LEADER.

We are drowning out here and the Democratic leadership is not giving us anything to work with.

It does need to be someone who thinks and talks like Clinton.

I'll pass on that kind of leadership.

Losing the House will help Obama in 2012 is a shitty message.

[Inuca]

18. I did not see the interview but in fairness

it looks like this is NOT what Clinton said http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9/19/903264/-Pres.-Clinton-corrects-the-narrative-on-Face-the-Nation

[ProSense]

20. Here's the quote

"Would it be good for (Obama), in a way, if he lost the House and the Republicans came to power and had to share some of the responsibility here?" Schieffer asked.

"Well, I think it would increase his chances of being re-elected," Clinton said. "Whether it would be good for the country or not. I don't know. You said that's part of the narrative.

link

[Mimosa]

34. ProSense, it's amazing Clinton said that

Thank you for the link.


I just watched Clinton on Meet the Press. He was more positive in tone. IMHO, there is no way any Republican gains could do anything other than hurt this country. And the president.

[impik]

23. Obama is not a LEADER. Don't you get it?

[impik]

21. Nice way to bash Obama without mentioning his name

[jannyk]

33. I agree completely. Well said DD!!

[obxhead]

10. One of the many reasons we have such a shortage of jobs

now is because of Clinton and NAFTA as well.

Clinton became part of the problem we have today.

[golfguru]

26. I thought NAFTA got passed in his 1st term

and jobs situation did pretty well breaking all time record of
jobs growth by any president in history, during his 2nd term.

Let's face it the real reason for the current economic malaise
started with the deflation of housing. The housing boom was hyper-inflated
due to easy mortgages to sub-prime. I have personally run into many people who
made tons of money by writing mortgages to sub-prime borrowers and then
turn right around and sell the mortgages to Fannie or Freddie.

And there is nothing Obama or the congress can do to re-energize the
economy until housing reaches it's normalized value level.

[obxhead]

29. Outsourcing millions of jobs allowed by NAFTA had nothing

to do with it?

Clinton and his administration had a very large hand in setting the stage for the housing crash as well.

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Clinton set the stage for catastrophe

He pushed through all kinds of job-obliterating free trade deals, signed the Glass-Steagall repeal, etc.

[golfguru]

27. I can agree on Glass-Steagall

That was the 800 pound gorilla which enabled banks to dabble
in hyper risky derivatives and MBS with saver's money.

[molly77]

37. Clinton gave US NAFTA

three strikes and you are out. WE have the largest prison population in the world. The repeal of Glass-Stegall so banks could invest in real estate insurance etc. This law was put in place under FDR so WE would never have another depression. Welfare reform when there were no jobs for welfare recepients and repeal of the Fairness Doctrine . Now WE have a few corporations owning the news. And why do WE need Clinton back again?

[molly77]

39. Clinton gave US NAFTA

three strikes and you are out....WE now have the largest prison population in the world. Repeal of Glass-Ste gall so the banks could invest in real estate, insurance etc. Repeal of the Fairness Doctrine so a few corporations could own the news. Welfare reform when the poor had no jobs to go to. Don't Ask Don't Tell which is unconstitutional. And why do WE need Clinton again?

[molly77]

40. Sorry for the double post.

Our immigration problems can be laid at his administration's feet as well. In 1995, Mexico was broke. They were asking US for a loan. Congress would not give them one. Larry Summers, as Clinton's under sec. of Treasury found the money. I can't remember from where ...and made the loan. Alan Greenspan stated in his memoirs that he formed a lasting bond with Summers and Rubin over their brilliance.

They charged exorbitantly high interest rates. So a Mexican with a 7% loan on their house, business or vehicle could see it jump to 30%. That started the mass migration to the US for survival. The loan was paid off early. The US had a new slave labor class.

Bush finished the job by not allocating money for border patrol. Summers is Obama's chief financial adviser. The two parties worked together on the immigration problem. Problem for people having to leave their families and communities to go off to a country where they can't speak the language ..may go to jail and work for peanuts.Problem for American workers . Great for corporations.

[lunatica]

3. Most teabaggers are not only way beyond sending their kids to college

But they probably never sent their kids there in the first place. These are not college people.

Clinton is trying to please God and the Devil.

[Iris]

24. some of them are

maybe only to get that business degree or maybe engineering degree but totally ignore anything else they might study that would shake up their world view.

Sadly, I know quite a few "comfortable" tea baggers

[ProSense]

4. Leave it to Politico to hype this portion of the interview

The teabaggers could not care less about the economy. They're running on hate and moronic support of candidates who support Bush's policies.


Clinton's interview revealed a lot of flawed thinking.

[ladjf]

6. I don't believe that Clinton's agenda is in the best interest of America

and most Americans. It's not that what he has said isn't, to an extent, true, it's the timing of this
insightful comment just before the election, followed by his belief that Obama might stand a better chance in 2012 if the Dems lose in November. His idea could influence Democrats to stay home on election day.

Clinton has shown his colors already. America would be better off if he would stay out of the political arena.(IMO)

[golfguru]

28. Never argue with success

Clinton's both terms hold all time records in jobs growth
beginning with George Washington.

[SemperEadem]

7. let's not forget, Larry Summers served him

a lot of those who made out like bandits in wall street served in clinton's wh. So, he also has to take some blame
for what has gone down through his fucked up policies--NAFTA, for instance.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. He enabled it - but his analysis is spot on nt

[ProSense]

12. "He enabled it "? How? n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

13. Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall

Which he's already admitted was a mistake - although Larry Summers refuses to admit it, IIRC.

[ProSense]

15. "Which he's already admitted was a mistake"

So you're cheering on this analysis even though you believe Clinton is responsible for enabling the crisis, something he fails to mention?

[MannyGoldstein]

22. Yes. Why is that a problem??? nt

[Faryn Balyncd]

16. K&R

:hi:

[ProSense]

17. Oops: Transcript of MTP interview, and Clinton did make a good point

about Republicans' desire to repeal health care:

<...>

PRES. CLINTON: How are we going to train people for the jobs that are there? Then, then I think the, the Democrats ought to talk about the Republican agenda. They want to repeal financial reform. They want to repeal the best student loan reform in history. They want to repeal, not fix, health care. Health care needs fixing, but if you repeal it, you'll go back to what we had. This year, 2009, in the depths of that recession, health insurance profits went up 26 percent, profits. As they were saying, "Oh, well, we had to raise these health premiums in a bad economy because our costs went up."

<...>

MR. GREGORY: Let me ask you about health care. Back in August of 2009, you spoke in front of that Netroots convention, and this is what you said about healthcare reform. Let's watch:

(Videotape, August 13, 2009)

PRES. CLINTON: I'm telling you, I don't care how low they drive support for this with misinformation, the minute the president signs the healthcare reform bill, approval will go up because Americans are inherently optimistic. The minute.

(End videotape)

MR. GREGORY: The White House said the same thing, Mr. President, but it hasn't happened yet.

PRES. CLINTON: Well, I was wrong about that for two reasons. First of all, the benefits of the bill are spread out over three or four years. It takes a long time to implement it. And secondly, there was--there's been an enormous and highly effective attack on it. But I think it's important. Let's--forget about the politics. Let's talk about the facts here. The real reason that the interest groups want to repeal, not fix health care, is that they like the way it's going now. They're dumping people every year and making the government pick them up. We are spending 17.2 percent of our income on health care. None of our wealthy competitors spend more than 10 1/2. Yet our infant mortality rate is higher than theirs, our overall mortal--age expectancy is lower than theirs. We don't have a better health system than they do. What's happened? That's a trillion dollars we spot our competitors every year for a health system that doesn't work as well. The people that are getting a trillion dollars have a lot of money to spread all this information--misinformation.

MR. GREGORY: Mm-hmm.

PRES. CLINTON: And, you know, last night, I was with a 70-year-old neighbor of mine who is a dedicated Roman Catholic layman and a doctor, and he said, you know, "I just don't know what I'll do if they repeal this health care. We--we've never taken care of people." So there, there is--you can scare people about this, but you asked me about the politics. No one ever talks about the facts. Why do they want to repeal health care? Because there is a requirement that 85 percent of all the premiums finally go to health care. And they'd like to get rid of that.

MR. GREGORY: They're, they're...

PRES. CLINTON: I don't blame them but it would be a terrible mistake. We need to fix health care, put more cost restraints in there, not repeal it.

<...>

[Mass]

19. How does voting for conservatives wont help solving the problem.

Does Clinton think voters are stupid idiots?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. Awww, Billy Boy. I see that he continues to be an arrogant S.O.B. A major reason why Obama is in...

the mess that he's in right now was PRECISELY because of Bill Clinton and his deregulatory policies.

For him to sit there and blame it on the banks...then, to equivocate when asked about whether the Republicans controlling the house would be good, is absolutely unconscionable. This from a man who's policies got us into this mess. Because he signed NAFTA into law, we now have to deal with unfair trade agreements. Because he and his DLC Compatriarts deregulated Wall Street, we're in this mess. To his credit, he did admit that he deregulated too much. He did admit that he should not have deregulated derivatives.

But to sit there and act all high and mighty when his own policies are the culprit, well...just goes to show why I could never, ever support him again!!

He and "Dumbya" Bush led us into this economic mess that we're in right now!

[Mimosa]

35. ^ TRUE about how we got here from there ^

Clinton's free trade policies resulted in millions and millions of jobs being transferred to China.

[RBInMaine]

30. Oh c'mon Bill, call a spade a fuckin' spade ! They are fringe RACIST assholes mad that Obama is

President and being pawned by right wing corporate scum. That is it. That is all. It has nothing whatsoever to do with them being "angry with bigness" and all that shit. The second Obama was elected, they formed with the help of their corporate backers and loudmouths like HeadRush, BeckerHead, and PalinTheFuckingIdiot. End of story.

[Ter]

31. Yes! Clinton said "shaft!"

I can't believe no one commented on this, lol! I miss Clinton!

[Safetykitten]

32. So sayeth the shaftor. Bank deregulation anyone?

[denimgirly]

36. Wait a minute -- wasnt Clinton the one that Deregulated things that caused this?

According to the new movie: Inside Job, Clinton was one of the architects for this mess...along with the republicans, and everyone else on Obama's economic team....Makes you wonder why we even vote for either party.

[RandomThoughts]

38. We vote to hold them responsibe if they do not do what they say they will.

Or at least try to get the things done.