Dylan Ratigan "I consider myself a conservative."..color me shocked

[Peacetrain]

NOT!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/14/dylan-ratigan-i-consider-_n_716296.html

It may have come as a surprise to some of his viewers, but Dylan Ratigan said he sees himself as a conservative.

On his MSNBC show Monday, Ratigan was talking to a panel of guests about conservatism when he said, "I consider myself a conservative."

"Really?" asked a surprised Jonathan Capehart

[Mefistofeles]

1. A little more context please

We pride ourselves in providing context (more than one phrase) before judging a comment. Did he add a caveat or clarification to his statement? Video? Link?

[Peacetrain]

3. The link works

[Mefistofeles]

9. Sure enough! Context shows he's a social liberal

His being conservative did not apply to social issues. I quote:

"Ratigan went on: "You can do whatever you want, the social I could care less, but when it comes to actual structure..."

I wish you had noted that part. Conservatives, on the other hand, do not think gays should do whatever they want, or people who want to relieve their pain in hospicals with marihuana should do whatever they want. Regarding abortions, conservatives do not want women to do whatever they want. In social areas, Ratigan is a liberal, like you and I. But hey, let's just throw in the "conservative" part and give people the usual lazy "go-watch-the-link-yourself" dismissal.

[FrenchieCat]

14. "I could care less" doesn't sound socially liberal.......

just means he doesn't give a fuck about social issue,
and I'm not sure why that's such a great thing....
and cares everything about fiscal issues, and on that one,
he is with the GOP.

But be in denial.....as there will be more coming from him
as we near the elections....like him boosting the GOP bigtime.

[Mefistofeles]

23. You prove my point. Conservatives give too much of a fuck

I do not give a fuck whether people smoke marihuana or not; whether a woman chooses to have an abortion or not. Etc. Conservatives on the other hand, want to meddle in every social aspect of our lives.

[FrenchieCat]

30. He loves Teabaggers......

and they aren't about anything more than social issues,
although they fake otherwise.

So it doesn't matter what he doesn't care about,
when he gives a forum to those who want to see some of us
without any rights.


Folks born yesterday willing to believe.....
the BS that Ratigan has to say went that a way :eyes: --->

[Cha]

33. I remember very well when he was mediawhoring for teabaggers.nt

[Mefistofeles]

49. How do you explain that Ratigan recommended an anti-O'donnel TPM article?

Here's Ratygan retweeting the article:



Broad statements are rarely good. For you to prove that "he loves teabagger" you would have to show us a lot of evidence.

[FrenchieCat]

52. Karl Rove doesn't like O'Donnel either.....

and? :shrug:

[Mefistofeles]

54. Karl Rove loves Marco Rubio. Does Ratigan love Marco Rubio?

No.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/karl-rove-supports-marco-rubio-in-florida-senate-race.php

Your broad statement haunts you.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

64. Do you like Ben Nelson?

No?

Guess you must not be a Democrat then.

[Mefistofeles]

65. The problem is...I like a lot of Democrats...and you have not named one Teabagger name

Tell me which Tea Party candidates or politicians Ratigan "loves" and which ones he doesn't.

[brentspeak]

67. Do you enjoy lying, or does it just come naturally to you?

http://freebirdsfine.newsvine.com/_news/2010/08/31/5012400-dylan-ratigan-throws-racist-teabagger-off-his-show">Dylan Ratigan throws racist teabagger off his show

[vaberella]

56. Uh no...he's the other side of the same coin.

He doesn't give a fuck about social issues---ie gays can take a hike. Women who would like their abortions covered by insurance can take a hike. Women striving for equal pay can take a hike. Cause he's not here to fight for you. He doesn't give a shit----your defense of this scum is reprehensible and more so since you label him a social liberal while he doesn't care for everything social liberals fight for.

[Cosmocat]

66. it's a republican BS line ...

It grates me to no end when a straight ticket R voting hate everything about democrats douchebag does the "socially liberal" crape ...

[SoxFan]

38. A right winger who likes to get laid and smoke weed

Selfishness perfected.

[newthinking]

63. Nice Propaganda attempt to discredit someone you disagree with

Not that I have watched him a lot recently, but enough to know that you all know the truth. You just don't like that he is critical of Obama's policies. So like Nancy said last week: If you are not for (happy with) (Obama), the assumption by some is you must be against (Democrats).

Sorry, dishonesty and spin just are so unattractive.

You really don't have to become like them (the Republican machine) to defeat them. You can nuance your discussion of Ratigan and make your point without lableing him "the enemy" characterizing him in a dishonest manner.

[JoePhilly]

2. No kidding ... I must retire to the fainting couch!!!

Big surprise ... not.

[Peacetrain]

4. He is such an arrogant, whacko..

[JoePhilly]

24. I've never liked his show ... it is little more that an anti-Obama rant ...

pretending to be objective. He never takes on the GOP in any meaningful way. Instead, he pounds Obama and the dems, and gives the GOP a pass.

So basically, you get Fox touting how awful Obama is, and Rati-jerk doing the same. Meanwhile, the GOP gets a pass.

[Peacetrain]

29. Exactly.. you could see through him like a window

and there is no soul there..

[DJ13]

5. This was (not) news last week

[Peacetrain]

7. Well I did not get it till today.. so it was NEW news to me ..his admission

The fact is a whackadoodle.. well I knew that already

[Peacetrain]

6. OHHHH the Ratigan supporters not happy with me posting this..unreccing already

:rofl:

[flamingdem]

8. Oh! But he knows so much about Wall St.

yeah cuz he's one of them. Have to admit he fooled me.

[Peacetrain]

10. Yep.. he is up to his hairy litttle eyebrows in wall street

[vaberella]

57. Does he have many supporters on DU? The guy is a loser libertarian. n/t

[SoxFan]

71. A group of DUers love libertarians

Look at the love Ron Paul and Bill Mahr get around here.

As long as you're liberal on pelvic issues or isolationist on foreign policy, you get a free pass from some people.

That's why Ratigan is loved and guys like Bart Stupak and Bob Casey, who have 100% progressive voting records on labor and civil rights issues, get trashed.

[FrenchieCat]

11. He is right on time as I had predicted...he's taking off his sheep mask revealing his wolf face!

He might as well have stuck his tongue out and mooned his many adoring fans here at DU who
I predicted he would fool just long enough till we got closer to election day, at which time
he would side with the Republicans, and make no more bones about it.

Anyone who couldn't see through his bullshit, needs to refrain from commenting on politics....
as they are obviously too easily hoodwinked. OF course, these would be the same folks
who only believe the worse intentions anytime our President has anything to say....
and I called that quite ironic! :rofl:

[Peacetrain]

13. Kiddo you had this one nailed cold

You are right.. the mask is off

[Ozymanithrax]

12. Dylan Ratigan's own words label him a Conservative...

So, is he just another arrogant liar pretending to be a Social liberal, or is he a Conservative. (Those two things appear to amount to the same thing.)

[Peacetrain]

15. That is what came out of his own little mouth

[FrenchieCat]

18. MSNBC gave him a show for a reason,

and it wasn't to help Liberals.

The only true progressives with shows on MSNBC are Rachel and Keith....
everybody else is a paid whore, and not much more.

[Peacetrain]

20. Yep..

[Ozymanithrax]

26. Please do not insult Paid Whores...They work for a living....

Dylan is more a Hamburger Whore, will fuck for food.

[TuxedoKat]

16. He was complaining

about Baby Boomers last week. I missed what he said just heard a teaser for it. Something about his generation having to clean up the mess. I didn't realize he was only 38 or so. He looks much older! I thought he was in his '50s.

[Peacetrain]

17. I heard that one.. and had to go online and check his age.

He did age well.

[vaberella]

58. You're kidding? He's only 8 years older than me?! Darn...I swore he was late 40s. n/t

[napi21]

19. Doesn't surprise me. He started his career on MSNBC as

what aooeared to be a hard core questioner who wouldn't let the people he was interviewing get away with blowing off questions and I loved that! It was about time SOMEONE held these people's feet to the fire and demanded answers. He's not so much like that anymore. Lately he's been doing a whole lot of Dem criticizing and I've stopped whatching him very much. If I wan't that crap I'd watch FOX.

[Peacetrain]

25. The first few times I became aware of Ratigan.. was on as a commentator

on other shows.. and he seemed fairly logical.. then when he got his own show.. within a week..he started showing what I called libertarian goofiness came flowing out..and I just could not watch him anymore.. If I by chance turned into his show.. it was always bashing the Democrats..

[Lilyeye]

21. I tried to watch his show once and knew he was a conversative the minute I heard him speak about the

tea party. So I am not shocked in the least either.

[Peacetrain]

27. Yep

[Doctor_J]

22. Wow. A conservative on cable "news"

this can't be right. Fox "News" says that MSRNC is a commie stronghold.

[Peacetrain]

28. They are infiltrating..

[SemiCharmedQuark]

31. Obviously Dylan Ratigan has thrown Dylan Ratigan under the bus for criticizing his hero Barack Obama

He can't answer Dylan Ratigan's charges, so he attacks the messenger as a "conservative". Cheerleader.

[Peacetrain]

34. On my best day.. I could not tease that post apart.

:rofl: you stumped me

Edit to add.. that was pretty good!

[Cha]

32. No wonder he was pimping

teabaggers. Such a tool.

[Peacetrain]

35. Yep.. that he was and is Cha.. Capehart asked him if that made him a libertarian?

no he says he is a conservative.

[Cha]

44. That makes him an idiot.

[Jennicut]

48. Peacetrain, I have ALWAYS seen him as a libertarian.

I am surprised he sees himself as a conservative but, whatever. I guess he is a conservative-leaning libertarian which is nearly as bad as a total absolute conservative.

[HughMoran]

36. & a fraud

& an annoying loudmouth Rush type.

[Peacetrain]

40. Oh my GOD is he a fraud..

[Spazito]

37. I am only surprised he actually admitted it n/t

[Tippy]

39. After listing to him today.....there was no doubt left in my mind

The two guys he interviewed about Obama's Town...made no bones about which side they were on....I would describe them as rabid....

[Peacetrain]

41. He does not make any bones about it any more.. does not even try

for show.. that he is somehow less than a righter

[Spazito]

43. Yep, I only listened to him twice and could tell he was not an honest arbitor...

never mind a supporter of anyone or anything left of Rand Paul.

[Peacetrain]

42. That was what stopped me cold..

[jenmito]

45. Ha! I wrote a post saying the same thing an hour ago on another thread. n/t

[Peacetrain]

50. What can I say Jen.. Great minds think alike

;)

[pmorlan1]

46. I like Ratigan's Show

He had a spirited discussion with Glenn Greenwald and Cliff May today. I actually like the guy. He brings on people as guests that are not the usual suspects that these kind of shows typically have on.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/

[FrenchieCat]

47. Keep watching and good luck!

:hi:

[vaberella]

59. Have fun with his show.

I despise the guy immensely because he pushes a ridiculous rhetoric. In the end he's a teabagger's teabagger.

[craigmatic]

51. I saw this the other day I was shocked to say the least

[TomCADem]

53. Just Because He Is On MSNBC, Does Not Mean He Is A Liberal, Look At Jon Turley...

...He is often on Rachal Maddow and KO, but he is not a liberal or progressive. He is a libertarian who once argued forcefully for the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

[vaberella]

60. Yup...that's why I though Ratigan was a Libertarian. He sounds like Turley.

Ratigan just can't pull pompous well. But you can tell that Ratigan would eliminate SS if he got the chance.

[brentspeak]

68. I didn't know libertarians demanded that Wall Street be heavily regulated

And banker salaries capped at $100,000. Who knew? http://www.alternet.org/economy/147799/meet_dylan_ratigan,_that_guy_on_msnbc_who_can_talk_a_mean_streak_about_the_scam_artists_on_wall_st./?page=entire

[Uzybone]

55. "Really?" asked a surprised Jonathan Capehart

Really Jonathan Capehart? You didn't know Ratigan was a conservative? :eyes:

Most media hosts take their viewers for fools.

[vaberella]

61. Hahahaha...ain't that the truth.

What irks me is to see Cenk in cahoots with that guy---and yeah hosting is cahoots. :D

[burning rain]

62. D-Rat certainly fawns over Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK).

.

[brentspeak]

69. So? I consider myself a conservative in the FDR/Truman/Ike/JFK mold

All four of those presidents, including the three Democrats, despite their progressive actions, considered themselves "conservatives" too, in that they valued sound economic stability, good, secure jobs for the American people, and sane foreign policy. Does that make me a right winger or a Republican too?

[Thrill]

70. He likes to hear himself talk

I consider him an Arrogant POS

[Akoto]

72. After the town hall, the guest he had with the bowtie ...

... roughly said, "This was a great infomercial. <snip> We need a better plan, and we need a better President."

And Ratigan said not a damn thing to counter it. He is a pretentious jerk who pauses every two seconds to read the damn prompter.

[jenmito]

73. Yup. When bowtie guy said that, I didn't EXPECT Dylan to refute him, as he himself

has said more than once that there's NO difference between the Bush and Obama administrations. I can't believe people are sticking up for him when he SAID he's a Conservative. I don't even watch his show anymore except times like yesterday just to see what he'd say. I wasn't surprised.

[Radical Activist]

74. GENBC is not your friend.