It went down...Ugh.

[vaberella]

It didn't make it to the floor. 56 out of 43.

[Mass]

1. I guess Webb and Nelson voted NO. Who is the third one?

[golddigger]

2. Lincoln.

[jaxx]

3. I heard Lincoln as a no.

Also,doesn't Harry Reid have to vote no in order to bring it up again? I may be wrong on that one.

[flpoljunkie]

14. Yes, he does

[flpoljunkie]

17. It was Lincoln, Pryor and Reid a with procedural no vote

[Mass]

20. Thanks. Happy to see Webb and Nelson voted YES.

[Phx_Dem]

27. Reid, but only as a procedural vote so he can bring it up again.

[gateley]

4. Yeah, it's official. Motherfuckers. nt

[jaxx]

5. You can say that again.

Rotten rat bastards whine and cry and vote no anyway. Gawd, they make me sick.

[gateley]

13. I am so furious and disgusted and heartbroken. I hate the way these people

can make me feel.

[vaberella]

6. I'm really gutted. n/t

[gateley]

12. I swear to God I'm so furious I'm fucking shaking. nt

[vaberella]

15. 3 Dems turned on us. n/t

[Mass]

21. Two. The two senators from AR. Reid's vote was procedural.

[vaberella]

22. I thought it was ...

Nelson, our Ben Nelson, Lincoln and Webb.

Update just saw post 17 and 20. Lincoln is a jerk.

[terrya]

23. I'm trembling with anger right now.

And the discharges of good people in our military, who want to serve their country, openly, like 25 other countries do, goes on...and on...and on...and on....and on...and on...and on...and on...and on.

This is an awful day today. And I don't want to fucking hear how this is entirely the fault of the Republicans. There's more than enough blame for this clusterfuck right now.

[karynnj]

34. I think it was the Dream Act amendment for it that many voted against

McConnell offered a consent agreement if it were not brought up - and possibly other conditions.

Here is McConnell:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/clip.php?appid=598823692
Note he says nothing related to immigration should be in the first 20 amendments.

Here is Reid rejecting it:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/clip.php?appid=598823696

What seems key is that McConnell does not want a vote on the Dream Act before the election. Reid wants it. What is clear is that a vote against the Dream Act would hurt many Republicans.

[Hekate]

38. This is more or less to your subthread here: Try to catch Rachel Maddow tonight...

I regret I'm not going to be home when her show airs, but I caught her commenting on the vote immediately after it came down today.

You know she'll be good tonight -- righteous anger coupled with solid analysis. In the bit I caught she was already in analytical mode, and the bottom line is this: McCain and them are the past; the audience at Lady GaGa's speech is the future; the Repubs are trading short-term gain for long-term viability with the rising generation. Oddly enough, she sounded almost cheerful.

Personally I think the Repubs are going to have to cave on this in order to get the bill passed. In the meantime, we Dems should be doing everything in our power to Get Out the Youth Vote, now and forever more.

98% of Dems voted for the bill. 100% of the Repubs voted against it. Who ya gonna call your friend?

Hekate

[AspenRose]

7. The usual suspects.

x(

[NJmaverick]

25. The GOP! Did any of them vote for it?

[jenmito]

8. Robert Gibbs just said this is NOT the end of the repeal of DADT. Lame duck session maybe? n/t

[vaberella]

10. Oy..I'm dead already. Dick Durbin is great.

Reid is like a yoga coach.

[Cha]

16. Well, he should know..I was wondering about this..

thanks jenmito!

[jenmito]

18. No problem...

I just hope he's right.

[Cha]

19. So do I..and I don't think he would

just be saying this if he didn't know how. :hi:

[Kdillard]

28. Exactly. The lame duck session is when this willl

probably get done. It's not over yet.

[jillan]

9. So that's it? That was the one chance for the Dream Act and ending DADT?

C'mon - that cannot be it.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[vaberella]

11. It's not the one chance.

It's just a lost chance and which means this falls into backlog for a few months.

[frazzled]

24. Interestingly, I just got in the mail today a package from the VFW

Why, I have no idea. At any rate, it is a set of Christmas cards, labels, wrapping paper, and ribbon, with the inevitable donation sheet and return envelope included.

I am going to send the donation sheet back to them (so they'll have to pay the postage, aside from the cost of the cards). It will state that until they stop opposing the repeal of DADT, they will receive no donation from me. And, oh yeah, I'll donate the greeting cards, etc. to the local VA hospital, so that real vets--some of them surely gay vets--can use them to contact family and friends.

[supernova]

26. Damn.

We will have to try again.

[Name removed]

29. Deleted message

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[Godhumor]

30. Discounting Reid's procedural vote, 96.5% of the Democrats supported the repeal

That's not the Democrats selling us out--that's the 60-40 system being borked.

edit: Symanitc issue in subject.

[stevenleser]

31. Yes, that person's comment is ridiculous. This is time to be upset, but not at whom that person

directed their anger.

[dave29]

32. you support this party because the ENTIRE other side of the aisle thinks you shouldn't have

equal rights.

[Raine1967]

33. I'm a real Democrat... Don't box me in to what you think we are, please.

KTHNX.

[LiberalAndProud]

40. And I'm not (?)

(sigh)

You are welcome to use the measuring stick of your choice and I'll use mine. We won't agree on distance to goal, but as long as we're working toward it perhaps some progress can be had after all.

:peace:

[karynnj]

35. There are 59 Democrats and 57 are for this

(Reid's vote is procedural because it lets him bring it up again.)

It is clear that there is a lot of game playing here - the Republicans do not want a vote on the Dream Act before the election. There is sufficient support for the that amendment. What is clear is that they are 3 votes short - and not one Republican voted for it. So, what will your party do with a subset of the current Democrats. They will need 60 votes - which means that they will need the people left in the Democratic party and a few Republicans.

How many of the current Democrats would you accept in your new party?

[HughMoran]

36. 57 of 59 Dems, 0 of 40 Republicans. Umm, no, it was Republicans that killed this

Perhaps you need to review Schoolhouse Rock again - I don't think you were paying attention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

[HughMoran]

37. "Remind me again why we support this party?" Are the 0 votes from Republicans the better choice?

You're not making sense.

[Skittles]

39. let me guess - is this where human rights for gay folk are UP FOR VOTES???

pitiful

[budkin]

41. The 60 vote thing is just total bullshit.... the filibuster needs to die.