I Don't Think PP or PPP Is A Reliable Pollster

[DemocratSinceBirth]

They were all over the place in 08. I wouldn't get too up or down based on their results.

People slam the (R)asmussen Poll and I did too but they have a decent track record.

[bigdarryl]

1. Hate to say this but PPP is VERY RELIABLE

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Really????????????

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/pollster%20ratings

[DrToast]

5. Yes, really.*

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. In All Candor I Noticed They "Beat" (R)asmussen

However I distictly remember them as being an outlier on several occasions in 08.

The results posted today on the CA and WV races are definitely outliers.

[WI_DEM]

15. you think the California results with Brown and Boxer leading are outliers?

Even Rasmussen is showing them surging from their last poll.

[phleshdef]

2. Rasmussen is an excellent pollster when he uses an honest model.

Which is why his polls are complete garbage anytime that isn't within striking distance of an election.

[Marsala]

7. Yes. Though we are getting within striking distance of the election

...and Rasmussen's polls are getting more trustworthy and in line with others, with certain exceptions (New York governor race).

[Mass]

3. It's not a question of reliable or not. It is a question of their likely voters model.

There is no way to know who is right or not (particularly not when they do not publish the model). This is why we should not take polls too literally.

It is clear that the season wont be good for Dems, but how bad is everybody best guess.

[Ramulux]

8. I think they are one of the best

and whether you like them or not, if it weren't for them Rasmussen polls would account for like 90% of the polls released this election instead of just like 60%. They are the only polling outfit putting out reasonable polls anywhere near as often as Rasmussen and we should be grateful to them, or else the media would be against us even more.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. They Are Getting Paid!

They aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts! Since I am unemployed I will conduct the polls if I can get paid.

Polls don't or shouldn't exist to make us happy or sad. They are snapshots of public attitudes.

[depakid]

10. Any poll where we don't know the specifics of the methodology

is pretty much suspect.

That holds doubly true where there's not only no culture of honesty, ethics and accountability- but a culture that emphasizes and rewards the opposite.

[BzaDem]

11. They nailed the states in 08. They nailed Scott Brown, they nailed the Delaware primary,

They nailed the Virginia and New Jersey governors races, and others.

One place where they don't do as well is in Congressional-district level polling (they did poorly in NY-23, and PA-12). But they seem to nail statewide-level polling very frequently.

[jefferson_dem]

12. I disagree.

In fact, they have been as reliable as any other pollster in the past couple years. Their track record speaks for itself.

[PBS Poll-435]

13. Dem Primary in PA - 2008

:rofl:

[WI_DEM]

14. Actually they have been very reliable this year and got the FL Governors race correct and CO primary

among other races.

[WI_DEM]

16. Some recent results

DE primary:

Raleigh, N.C. – It looks like there’s a real possibility of a major upset in the Delaware
Senate primary on Tuesday night, with insurgent conservative Christine O’Donnell
leading longtime Congressman and Governor Mike Castle 47-44. That 3 point lead is
well within the poll’s margin of error

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_DE_912806.pdf

They were the only pollster to detect that Castle was in trouble.

FL GOP primary:

Florida Governor – GOP Primary

For a while, self-funded gubernatorial candidate Rick Scott was leading in the polls and was the favorite to win the nomination over GOP-backed candidate Bill McCollum. (FrumForum was able to secure an exclusive interview with Rick Scott at the height of his polling numbers.) However, recent polling suggests the race has tightened significantly. Public Policy Polling has Scott leading 47-40 and this is within the poll’s margin of error. The newest Mason-Dixon poll has McCollum leading Scott by 34-30, and McCollum also leads Scott 39-35 to in a Quinnipac University poll.

While Rick Scott may no longer be clearly leading, it is also clear from these polls that a lot of voters remain undecided.

http://www.frumforum.com/florida-gop-gov-race-goes-down-to-the-wire

As you can see they got the correct result while Quinnipiac and Mason Dixon picked McCollum to win.

Colorado DEM senate primary:

Clinton's support is the first thing voters see in the website for Romanoff, who trails Bennet by six points in the latest survey, conducted by Public Policy Polling and released over the weekend. Romanoff struggled with a double-digit deficit early this year, but received a surge in support in June, closing within four points in a Denver Post/SurveyUSA poll.



Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7019546077?Divisive%20Democratic%20Senate%20Primary%20Underway%20In%20Colorado#ixzz10HpW4smQ

other pollsters had Romanoff leading or tied.

Not that all pollsters don't sometimes have wrong forcasts, but speaking just for 2010 (I don't know what their record was in 2008) they have been very accurate--one of the most accurate in fact.