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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:56 PM
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Jim Webb
Did he vote for the fillubuster?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:56 PM
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1. he voted with his fellow republicans? evidently not today nt
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 10:57 PM by msongs
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:58 PM
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3. No he didn't
that is baldly false. The only Dems who voted for the filibuster were Pryor and Lincoln of Ark and Reid (who had to so he could bring up the bill again later).
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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:00 PM
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4. Sorry I didn't get it
why did Reid vote 'NO".. I need some answer!!!
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:03 PM
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5. It's one of those stupid Senate procedural things.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 11:03 PM by Diamonique
Reid voted "yes" at first. But after we lost, the Majority Leader has to change his vote to "no" in order be able to bring the bill back up for a vote again.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:52 AM
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15. So he can bring up the bill again
only those on the winning side of a vote may bring a motion to reconsider so he had to vote for the filibuster at the last second.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:19 PM
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9. Nothing wrong with Webb.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:58 PM
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2. No. Jim Webb voted with his fellow Dems. Link provided.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 10:59 PM by vaberella
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:06 PM
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6. All Dems voted for cloture, except Lincoln and Pryor
It's a day we should be proud of our Democrats standing together and turning fire on Republicans - but nope, circular firing squad resumes position.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:15 PM
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8. Well Lincoln will be ousted.
When will Pryor's vote be up?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:21 PM
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10. I read somewhere that Lincoln and Pryor didn't vote no until it was clear we were going to lose the
vote. Does anyone know if that's true? The implication was that they would vote for it if it was going to pass but if it was already going to fail, they could vote against.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:25 PM
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11. That's possible
I really don't know why we're focusing on those two and letting 41 Republicans off the hook. None of them are in vulnerable states?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:40 PM
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13. I know. The usual is happening again. Republicans obstruct something and Democrats blame Democrats
while essentially letting the Republicans off the hook.

It was pretty damn clear during the lead up that ALL WE NEEDED was ONE Republican vote. If we got one, then we could repeal DADT. Harry didn't seem to be focused on Lincoln or Pryor as votes that had to be turned or else the repeal would fail. I think if we had Collins or Snowe then they would have voted the right way. If not then the word should have been out to call/lobby/etc. the hell out of the Arkansas Senate delegation. I didn't see that happening in the way it should have been if we would have flipped Collins and then Lincoln would have been the vote that killed the repeal.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:07 PM
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7. Lincoln & Pryor were the guilty parties
Reid also voted "no" in the end strictly as a procedural tactic to allow the motion to be reconsidered later.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:26 PM
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12. I'm confused - I'd heard that Nelson, Lincoln and Webb voted w/the Repubs --
is this a DIFFERENT vote, or did I read (then spread around) something wrong? Thanks.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 05:40 AM
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14. Nope. Just Lincoln and Pryor. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 01:27 PM
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17. Gulp. Never thought I'd say this, but I apologize to Nelson and Webb! Thanks. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 07:54 AM
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16. Webb came through on this vote. It was those couple
of others who disappointed.

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