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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:16 AM
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I really hope you guys are watching this
President Obama with people who are helped by health care reform. Very moving.


http://live.cnn.com/
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:17 AM
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1. Thank you, I am now.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:21 AM
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2. Why does Huffington Post latest headline is kicking the healthcare under the bus
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:23 AM
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3. I've just about had it with HuffPost
and Arianna.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:50 AM
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8. I have had it. They're tabloid fodder.
You'll get some good writers there from time to time...but they're like People---they spend most time gossiping and pissing on the President's agenda. I remember when they did one article and you didn't read the 7 updates you'd think the admin was kicking the american people in the ass and then the updates by the writer stated that he had misinformation. It's a normal occurrence.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:02 PM
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10. you mean the rag that just brought on Howard Fineman as Senior Editor?
ugh.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:38 AM
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4. Which part of that article is incorrect?
Are the insurer's NOT dropping child only policies rather than complying with the new law?
Or is there part of the law not allow them to do that which the article is leaving out?

If the article is accurate, it is pretty scummy of the insurer's to do that and it's a pretty goddamned big loophole in the law.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:39 AM
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5. It doesn't mention that their action will make them ineligible for the exchange
And thus they are committing corporate suicide.

There is a law now.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:42 AM
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6. Do we know it will be suicide?
Is it not possible (and given the way corporations work highly likely) that they've crunched their numbers and have determined that it's cheaper for them to do this and not be on the exchanges than it is to continue the policies and also participate in the exchanges?

When it comes to greed and sneaky maneuvering, I hate to say it but I trust the corporate numbers crunchers more than I do some of our more naive (to be generous) politicians.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:48 AM
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7. Any large insurance company not on the exchange will not survive.
They can go 100% cadillac and sell their plan to only the top 2%, but that would mean abandoning millions of their current customers. It's all up to them, they know the law.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:59 AM
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9. They know the law....
Exactly. That's why I "trust" (wrong word to use for insurance companies, but it applies here) that they've done their math and know that they will be just fine.

It seems to me that it would be like scoffing at a doctor for not accepting medicaid. Yeah, it might lose them some patients but they've figured that losing patience at the amount it would cost them and that they would get reimbursed for was not worth there time. And there are plenty of doctors that fit that bill.

One of the big problems with the legislation as a whole was that it still relied on insurer's to "do the right thing" morally speaking, and to not pursue every single possible loophole, and to not be able to determine to the penny which route is the most profit friendly for them.

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:11 PM
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11. What is it? What's the big f'ing deal?
:)
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