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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:04 PM
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Reuters: Sen. Reid says reports of public option death "not true."
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 10:01 PM by jenmito
ETA link thanks to Peacetrain: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B807720091209 :hi:

p.s. The article has been updated. The sentence in my Subject line, quote included, is no longer there.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:07 PM
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1. Geez the confusion is maddening.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:08 PM
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2. That's the internet age for you.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:11 PM
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4. It could be that the Medicare expansion is in addition to some sort of PO.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:11 PM
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3. Aw shucks... and the Outrage Crew were so happy before you had to ruin their "told you so" parade.
Thanks for the correction from an actual named source who's credible.

K&R
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:12 PM
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5. link?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:15 PM
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9. Reid said reports the government-run "public option" had been dropped were "not true."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:19 PM
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14. Not quite what Reuters is saying
Senate negotiators emerged from a full day of meetings Tuesday saying they had made genuine progress toward a deal on health care reform.

They declined to outline the specifics of the agreement, but said that the measures they had been discussing will be sent to the Congressional Budget Office office for cost estimates. Once the estimates are returned, the final deal will be put together.

"We have made a lot of progress. There's a lot of agreement. We have decided to take the next step and that is to ask the CBO to score what we've been discussing," said Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.), one of five conservative Democrats negotiating with five liberals.

The discussion has focused on abandoning or greatly narrowing the public health insurance option. In exchange, people 54-55 would be able to buy in to Medicare and Medicaid eligibility would be expanded to people within 150 percent of the federal poverty line. And people within 300 percent of poverty would be eligible for a program pushed by Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) modeled on her state's Basic Health. Cantwell is not one of the ten in the meetings but has stopped by to brief negotiators.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/senate-sinks-abortion-ame_n_384846.html
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:21 PM
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16. Um...that quote you highlighted is not a quote said by Reid and that link isn't to Reuters.
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 09:22 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
That's HuffPo.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:24 PM
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17. Also, the post you replied to was what Reuters said VERBATIM.
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 09:25 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:25 PM
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19. Oh, I forgot HuffPo no longer has the imprimatur from the Holy Office
Perhaps we should wait for Gibbs to tell us what to believe.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:26 PM
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20. Well when you say that "That isn't what Reuters said", it's expected you'll post what Reuters DID
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 09:30 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
say. Not what some other source says.

You didn't.

Not only that, but you said "Not quite what Reuters is saying" when actually, the poster had copied what Reuters said word for word.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:17 PM
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11. MSNBC is lying about Reuters reporting this statement by Harry Reid? See above reply for the link.
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 09:18 PM by ClarkUSA
:eyes:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:20 PM
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15. There you again! Your side never lies (2011 troops will be home)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:31 PM
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23. Glad you see it that way. Your HuffPo story doesn't change what Reuters reported.
:)
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:12 PM
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6. Harry Reid is credible?
I wouldn't go that far.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:13 PM
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8. No. But Bernie Sanders is.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 10:23 PM
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35. Bernie wasn't in on the meeting though.
So he doesn't know exactly what it says either.

He probably SHOULD have been in the meeting though. If the idea of this "gang of 10" was to have 5 liberals and 5 so-called "moderates", then Bernie would have been a natural choice for the Liberal side, along with Feingold and Harkin. Chuck Schumer? Yeah, right.....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:13 PM
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7. I know. They already put their "Kucinich '12" yard signs up
in their yards...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 10:28 PM
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36. At least one poster has a different sign in mind...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 10:41 PM
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39. She can't be serious!
She supports a HAWK who is considered DLC by many? And definitely to the right of Obama?! :rofl:
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:35 PM
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28. Right Clark
I see a certain person from Allentown, PA made that exact comment.:hi:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:16 PM
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10. Here is the Reuters story
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:19 PM
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13. Thanks, Peacetrain! I hope you don't mind that I added it to my OP.
:hi:
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:17 PM
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12. And reports of Elvis death
not true either....
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:24 PM
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18. CNN: Reid and the two senators who negotiated the agreement would not reveal any details
Reid and the two senators who negotiated the agreement -- Charles Schumer and Mark Pryor -- would not reveal any details of the plan

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/08/health.care/index.html

Senate negotiators emerged from a full day of meetings Tuesday saying they had made genuine progress toward a deal on health care reform.

They declined to outline the specifics of the agreement, but said that the measures they had been discussing will be sent to the Congressional Budget Office office for cost estimates. Once the estimates are returned, the final deal will be put together.

"We have made a lot of progress. There's a lot of agreement. We have decided to take the next step and that is to ask the CBO to score what we've been discussing," said Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.), one of five conservative Democrats negotiating with five liberals.

The discussion has focused on abandoning or greatly narrowing the public health insurance option. In exchange, people 54-55 would be able to buy in to Medicare and Medicaid eligibility would be expanded to people within 150 percent of the federal poverty line. And people within 300 percent of poverty would be eligible for a program pushed by Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) modeled on her state's Basic Health. Cantwell is not one of the ten in the meetings but has stopped by to brief negotiators.

Senators, after the meeting, would not confirm which elements of the discussion were sent to CBO. Much will depend on the results of the CBO analysis.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/senate-sinks-abortion-ame_n_384846.html
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:26 PM
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21. Seriously.. now matter what is being said..this still has to be reconciled with the house.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:29 PM
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22. People have got to stop freaking out over "sources say" & "reports are" etc nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:32 PM
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24. Reid is not quoted by Reuters saying anything like that
refusing to give details on the proposals that will be sent to the Congressional Budget Office.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:34 PM
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26. That's because they updated their story at the link and you know it. Nice try.
He did indeed say that earlier. :)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:36 PM
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29. In other words, the OP is just DEAD WRONG!
and like the lunatics in I/P, your side can't never admit you were wrong.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:46 PM
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34. Um, wrong again. I said Reuters UPDATED the story. They did not correct the story.
You're one to speak of lunatics... :rofl:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:35 PM
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27. You're referring to an updated link, but the original link the OP sourced said exactly that.
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 09:35 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Word. For. Word.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:39 PM
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31. So Reuters corrected the story while you guys are still repeating it
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:40 PM
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32. No, they updated the story.
However, at the time when you claimed Reuters hadn't "quite said that", the link read exactly word for word what the poster wrote.
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:33 PM
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25. Premature outragulation is running amok. Again.


There must be a group of folks who sit around all day looking for "bad news" so they can go online and express outrage. No point in waiting for pesky facts, or the real story to unfold.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:37 PM
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30. Who started that crap?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:40 PM
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33. OP
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 10:30 PM
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37. ...and the third day the public option rose again
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neshanic still Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 10:32 PM
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38. It's official, no PO. By Reid saying there is, he has proven it.
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