Obama couldn't sell out a speech this wk? Is this right? Bill Maher just said it

[LeftyAndProud60]

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[Kolesar]

1. Bill Maher should go back to the grotto

and we will be glad not to hear from him for a period

[Phx_Dem]

44. LOL. Seriously.

[Ineeda]

2. I find that hard to believe. n/t

[jenmito]

3. Bill Maher says lots of things that aren't true. n/t

[LonePirate]

4. Here's your proof! The story is true.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-09-23/obamas-fire-sale/

[ProSense]

6. That's proof?

It's media drivel.

Who would have thought that six weeks before a cliffhanger election, President Obama would have to reach down to the D list to fill a room to listen to him? Most of us low rollers arrived early to see President Obama up close and personal. Our tickets for the general reception at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York were only $100. Some thought the email invitation was a joke. Some bought tickets for $50 from their desperate Democratic committeeman. Some bought the same day.

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Later that night, another crowd had shelled out $15,000 to sit for dinner with the president. Think that’s a lot? It’s a 50 percent markdown from a recent invitation to dinner with the president at the home of Linda Douglass and John Phillips, costing $30,000.

So the idea is that it was due to confusion and that later that night they had to discounted the tickets to $15,000?

Ridiculously snarky drivel.

Seriously, it's hard to know who is more gullible when it comes to the President's detractors.

[rug]

7. That goodness you're here to argue he can too fill a ballroom.

[ProSense]

8. Who the hell cares if he can fill a ballroom?

The story is idiotic. What's your point?

[rug]

10. You, apparently.

[ProSense]

12. And what do you care about?

The notion that someone will say this story is bullshit, killing the moment for you?

[rug]

15. $30,000 fundraising tickets.

[ProSense]

18. Is it your money?

If you really wanted to attend, you had a choice: be one of the hecklers or become the 451st guest at "fire sale" price.

"And everybody did—450 people in a room that holds 650. Even Obama’s fire sale didn’t sell out."

Also, it wasn't $30,000, it was $15,000.

"Later that night, another crowd had shelled out $15,000 to sit for dinner with the president. Think that’s a lot? It’s a 50 percent markdown from a recent invitation to dinner with the president at the home of Linda Douglass and John Phillips, costing $30,000."

Yeah, minutes later that night: "He will deliver remarks at a 6:35 p.m. ET DSCC/DCCC fundraiser, and also deliver remarks at a 7:30 p.m. ET DSCC/DCCC dinner."

[rug]

19. Are you now defending catering to 30 grand a pop donors?

[ProSense]

Are you shocked that political parties hold fundraisers?

You're shocked?

I'm not shocked, and it isn't against the law.

[rug]

21. Not at all.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?id=n00009638

Raising health insurance premiums is not against the law either.

[ProSense]

22. Stellar logic

"Raising health insurance premiums is not against the law either."

People voluntarily donating their own money to a political party is the same as insurance companies raising premiums for health care?

[rug]

24. I'm dubious that donations from millionaires and government policy are unrelated.

Are you?

"I also believe that if we're serious about change, we need to have a real discussion about public financing for congressional elections. Because even if we can stop lobbyists from buying us lunch or taking us out on junkets, they'll still be able to attend our fundraisers - and that's access the average American doesn't have."
— Remarks on the floor of the U.S. Senate by Sen. Barack Obama in support of the Honest Government and Leadership Act, August 2, 2007

[ProSense]

26. So everyone who

donates $15,000 or $30,000 to a political party is a lobbyist?

Everyone of them is impacting policy?

[rug]

28. Yes, that's exactly what I said.

[ProSense]

29. Not everyone who donates to a political party is a lobbyist.

There are many wealthy people who do that are not.

[4lbs]

38. So, when Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins attend a Democratic political fundraiser,

they too are "lobbyists"?

Barbara Streisand? She attends quite a few of these, not just to sing. She's a "lobbyist" ?


Rigghhhhtttt.....

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[ProSense]

11. By "apologists"

do you mean people with common sense?

Do the "base" regularly attend DSCC/DCCC fundraisers?

I think the "base" were the people outside heckling the President.

[ClarkUSA]

13. "apologists"? Are you referring to liberal Democratic activists who are Obama supporters like me??

<< What more proof do you need that the base is unhappy with him right now? >>

Every poll taken since President Obama has become president shows a huge majority of self-identified liberals strongly approving of his job performance. For someone who seems to specialize in making baseless claims against Obama, I'm not surprised to see another one.

I am "the base" and I'm very happy "with him right now". What base do you represent?

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[ProSense]

25. Really?

Where are these leaders that you prefer? Your Senators? Who?

"Obama has become a milquetoast, insolent centrist."

All you have is lousy name calling and ludicrous media spin to back up claims.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

31. Insolent? How?

I don't think this word means what you think it does.

[LonePirate]

33. Sorry. I meant indolent. I didn't catch my typo.

He has spent almost no time using his bully pulput influence to herd the cats that comprise the Democratic caucus in Congress. We could have had considerably better and significantly more achievements now if he had exerted some effort.

[Baltoman991]

36. So, you'd prefer

a King to a President seeing as how you think Obama can do it all himself. Well sorry, you're in the wrong country for that.

Obama can kick and scream all he wants, until Congress starts backing him then his hands are tied. That is, unless you want him to be like George W. Bush. Is that what you want? Did you like when George ignored Congress and made his own rules? Nah, didn't think so.

But alas, your hatred for Obama shines through in every post. Continue beating that dead horse. He won, time to support him or move on. That should be simple enough for you.

[ProSense]

37. Hmmmm?

:rofl:


"We could have had considerably better and significantly more achievements now if he had exerted some effort."

I see the problem, math and poor understanding of the legislative process.

There was a time when it took 67 votes to fight off a filibuster. It changed to 60 in the 1975.

Thursday, every Senate Democrat voted for the DISCLOSE Act, and it failed to pass. Of course, that's President Obama's fault for not creating the imaginary 60th Democratic vote.

If the Democratic leadership compromises with Repubicans and conservative Democrats to get anything passed, then the President is "insolent indolent."

[ClarkUSA]

42. "indolent"? Did you just call our first African-American President lazy AGAIN?

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[Cha]

27. I don't need anymore proof that you're trying to get in all the negative

claptrap you can about President Obama but I'm going with this amazing President we have not the desperation wafting through cyberspace.

[jefferson_dem]

16. Bogus report all the nutbags in the right wing echo chamber were circle-jerking over this week.

I call bullshit on Sheehy.

Oh, and welcome (back) to DU. :hi:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

34. A story about how Obama refuses to reward big donors like the Clintons did?

The author feels that by not providing big donors with rides on Air Force One and nights in the Lincoln bedroom, Obama has not been good to his big donors. The author suggests Obama should do such things. I suppose you agree?

[GoCubsGo]

45. "The Daily Beast", eh?

Do you get all of your "proof" from gossip rags?

[mkultra]

48. its a clear hit piece and here is how you know.

Here's the key line where she tips her hand:

"Do we need to line up early to get in?”

“That’s not necessary. Everybody will get in.”

And everybody did—450 people in a room that holds 650.

That's the key to understanding that this is a hit piece.

[Dawson Leery]

5. Bill Maher (sexist pig-Hollywood) is not well informed.

It is best that Bill stays with celebrity "reporting".

[SemiCharmedQuark]

30. Bill Maher also said people could avoid the flu with their diet

Bill Maher is sometimes a dumb fuck

[vaberella]

40. He did say that. I remember that because he was spouting a lot of right wing shit that ep. n/t

[Honeycombe8]

43. Actually, I think that's true. Maher speaks about the citizens' rushing to

get medications and vaccinations all the time (and I mean ALL the time), while still eating crap processed food full of high fructose corn syrup, greasy burgers, tons of chemicals, other fast foods, failing to exercise, etc.

I agree. If people lead a healthier lifestyle, Americans wouldn't get sick as often or have a problem with obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, or high cholesterol. All those things are caused by a person's lifestyle.

People get colds and flu because of low immunity. Immunity can be built up through diet and exercise. It doesn't ensure you won't ever get a cold or the flu, but it helps a LOT.

Note: I am 56 years old. I have never had the flu (I've gotten flu shots only twice in my life, when pressured). I rarely get colds (even when I smoked). I also rarely eat fast food, I walk or do moderate exercise frequently (but not for very long, or very strenuous). The H1N1? A joke. It was just the flu that the govt (and pharma companies) built up to be bigger than it was. Did you know that fewer people died from H1N1 than in other years from the "regular" flu? You'd never know it, from listening to the media and government and pharma companies. I didn't get it, despite that I didn't get a flu shot and was flying back and forth to NY in planes at the time, rubbing shoulders with strangers with colds and such.

Wanna stay healthy? Stay away from doctors, hospitals, and medications, unless absolutely necessary. They only make money if you are sick. It's a conflict of interest.

[FrenchieCat]

14. 39 days before an election.....

and this is the kind of bullshit we have to deal with......
coming from folks right here at DU....most who haven't liked this president ever,
and some new folks.

I'm fucking tired of the corporate media, and the folks
that appear to have reappeared with nothing better to do but listen
to their TV and and post it over here in one sentence ops.

Glad I'm going GOTV tomorrow for 5 hours.
Thank goodness for folks like me!

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[dionysus]

20. fail porn at its finest.

[vaberella]

41. ITA. n/t

[Change Happens]

47. No Bill is wrong...26K showed up and

He was not SELLING TICKETS

[Mass]

49. regular people dont have $100 to go see the president. So, rich people did not show up.

Talk about an out of touch media person.