Good stuff - Brown / Whitman (CA Gov. race) debate live now :

[pinto]

http://www.latimes.com/

[KingFlorez]

1. Brown: "The surplus didn't drop down from the tooth fairy. I created the damn thing"

He's doing good. Whitman sounds very condescending.

[flamingdem]

4. I can't stand to listen to her condescending snivel. GO JERRY! nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. She's annoying as fuck. nt

[catzies]

27. Glad you liked it. It scared me to death. Gov. Moonbeam is now Grandpa Moonbeam

I ws a kid in the 70s and moved to CA in 79 where I've been ever since and he sounded too "Get off my lawn!" to me. And she is frighteningly well-coached and scarily on cue with her talking points.

I would feel safer with him at the helm but I'm so scared of most people's gullibility and easy ability to be swayed by the last commercial they see when on their way to the polls that I think she will win.

I think this election is going to be decided at the last minute by the undecideds who will make up their mind at the last minute.
:scared:

[stopbush]

37. I really don't see how you got that as a take away from this debate.

Well coached? Please. Why do you think that? Because somebody told you that? Give me a break! She was choking on her words and having to swallow at uncomfortable spots, a real giveaway that someone is either nervous or lying. She marched in there with the typical R talking points about running government like a biz, which gave Jerry the opportunity to tie her to Ah-nold as, "the last inexperienced business person who thought running government as a business was a good idea. It's a lot more complicated and frustrating than that."

Ah-nold's approval rating is shit these days. Meg aligning her philosophy with Ah-nold's failed philosophy is just another nail in her coffin.

I agree - Jerry will get at least a 2 point bump out of tonight.

[catzies]

41. I didn't watch it on TV - listened to it on NPR. Sometimes audio impressions differ

My analysis is based strictly on what I heard because I didn't see anything.

[CountAllVotes]

2. watch it live here!

http://debate.ucdavis.edu/webcast.html

:dem: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

3. Why doesn't he tie her to Arnie? He's not very popular these days. nt

[flamingdem]

5. Too obvious nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. It worked with McSame. nt

[stopbush]

38. He did near the end.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

39. I know. I noted that below after posting this. It was sweet too. nt

[Joanie Baloney]

7. Kick some Nutmeg ass, Jerry!

She is the slimiest weasel this side of the Rockie mountains. I can't stand her voice, her gums, much less her holier-than-thou attitude.

Jerry's got the audience giggling...his candor is refreshing.

[Parker CA]

8. Jerry is killing it with facts. Whitman is failing with rambling vagaries.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

10. She fucked up with the ''no path to legalization''. nt

[flamingdem]

12. agree! nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Isn't she in cahoots with former Gov. Wilson?

[flamingdem]

16. Don't know.. nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

17. Thought I heard that somewhere. nt

[Brother Buzz]

21. He's her campaign co-chairman

[KingFlorez]

20. He's chairman of her campaign

He hasn't been very visible since the primary, though. Too many people remember Prop. 187.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. Thanks. I'm hoping they do. nt

[flamingdem]

11. Eliminate Sanctuary cities, temporary migrant workers .. dissing Latinos nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. I'm nowhere near California but the Boxer race and this one have me hooked. nt

[CountAllVotes]

13. and the border between California and Mexico ...

:wtf: Whitless?

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

18. He got her good now w/ Wall St, Arnie and campaign finance. nt

[CountAllVotes]

19. secret fund where Whitless got her campaign $ from ...

sing Jerry sing ... :nopity: Whitless.

:kick:

[Brother Buzz]

30. Secret California Chamber of Commerce fund buying ads

Jerry simply asked for transparency.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

22. I know I'm biased but he's tearing her a new one. nt

[Parker CA]

28. Felt the same way. She had zero substance or command of the issues. Brown will get shit done.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

31. I missed the 1st 20 mins. but he didn't let one slide.'' Experience and spine"

[Parker CA]

33. He was very very good at closing his statements with strong and clear language. She floundered,

often repeating herself and simply regurgitating her tv spots.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

35. Come on! California is beautiful with the bestest people in the wide world!

:puke:

[Aramchek]

24. she sounds like a flash card regurgitation machine

[catgirl]

25. Meg is a bad kiss-ass

Her closing statement was horrible.

[Parker CA]

29. Full mega-fail indeed.

[Brother Buzz]

26. Jerry Brown will get a two point bounce from this debate

[Brother Buzz]

42. Boy, I was wrong!

RCP Average 9/14 - 9/28 -- 47.0 43.2 Brown +3.8

CNN/Time 9/24 - 9/28 786 LV 52 43 Brown +9
SurveyUSA 9/19 - 9/21 610 LV 46 43 Brown +3
Rasmussen Reports 9/20 - 9/20 750 LV 47 46 Brown +1
LA Times/USC 9/15 - 9/22 887 LV 49 44 Brown +5
Field 9/14 - 9/21 599 LV 41 41 Tie
PPP (D) 9/14 - 9/16 630 LV 47 42 Brown +5

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/governor/ca/california_governor_whitman_vs_brown-1113.html

Jerry will have a double digit lead after the Brown - Whitman debate number two this Saturday in Fresno 'looks like Detroit', California. Bank on it!

[stopbush]

32. Jerry clearly won this debate, aided in part by Whitman's scripted responses.

That's the problem when you deal in sound bites that run in commercials - you're not used to thinking on your feet when the sound bites get challenged in a debate.

Jerry offered a nice mix of intellect, experience, humor and accessibility. Meg, not so much.

[flamingdem]

34. Delivery flat as pancakes nt

[jenmito]

36. Hopefully, it will be on that website to watch tomorrow. I missed it. n/t

[CountAllVotes]

40. Brown Scores Clear Victory in Tonight's Gubernatorial Debate

Brown for Governor Campaign
28 September 2010


DAVIS, Calif. – Fighting off a flurry of distortion and double-talk, Attorney General and Democratic Gubernatorial Candidate Jerry Brown tonight scored his first debate victory, drawing a clear contrast in substance and style, while blasting billionaire Meg Whitman for peddling multi-billion dollar tax breaks for California’s wealthiest.

“Jerry Brown was the clear winner in tonight’s debate,” said Brown for Governor Campaign Manager Steve Glazer. “California’s voters saw a clear contrast tonight: Jerry was candid, knowledgeable and real, while Meg Whitman stuck to her stump speech, stayed on script and offered few solutions to our state’s mounting problems.”

“Meg Whitman has a wealth of experience protecting the interests of Wall Street players and corporate executives, so it’s no surprise that these individuals – not working Californians – have the most to gain from her policies,” Glazer continued. “Meg Whitman's economic plan is tickle-down 2.0 – a shoddy, self-enriching plan to eliminate the capital gains tax for California's ultra-rich.”

http://www.jerrybrown.org/brown-scores-clear-victory-tonights-gubernatorial-debate

GO JERRY!!!!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

43. Meg "Whitless"!! I love it!! n/t