I think the Huffington Post perfectly proves Pres. Obama's point tonight...

[Drunken Irishman]

Check it out!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/




Obama holds a rally on relative short notice, gets 27,000 people there and delivers a slam dunk speech to a great deal of the party's base.

Top story, right? This is what the Huffington Post has been waiting for and surely they're going to mention it, right?

Uh...

No.

There are six Obama stories on the front page of Huffington Post right now. Four of them are written by Huffington columnists. One is already setting up the narrative about Obama's potential replacement of Summers. The others essentially discuss the same thing - Pres. Obama is pretty much the biggest dick alive.

The final two are not written by the Huffington Post, however, made their way to the front page. The first is trashing Rahm and the other a story about how Obama is Christian by choice.

Nowhere on the Huffington Post's front page can you find any hint of a positive story toward Obama. There is absolutely nothing about his rally in Madison today - the fact he's trying to energize the youth vote. There is nothing on his article in Rolling Stones, except Jane Hamsher's typical assault on one little excerpt.

Not a damn thing on that page that points to anything good for Obama. It's negative, negative, negative.

On a night where he rallies 27,000 Democrats (let's see any other Democrat do that), he gets absolutely shit from the media site that constantly complains about him and then complains when he calls out their complaining. It's rather unbelievable if you think about it.

If there was any chance to prove the Obama administration wrong, today would have been that chance and the Huffington Post continues to slam the President over and over again without even a sliver of positivity.

I find that inexcusable.

[Pirate Smile]

1. It is what she always does with her website. I am not a fan.

[jezebel]

2. Yep. If Quitter Palin or some right winger held a rally like his, Drudge and all the right wing

sites would be trumpeting it all day.

[Ikonoklast]

3. Never cared for her before, even less now.

Just another buck hustler that saw greater opportunity on the other side in a less crowded field.

[Radical Activist]

5. Maybe so, but this example isn't unique.

This is typical of how left pundits let the corporate press set the agenda and ignore anything progressive Obama does.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

76. I actually don't think Arianna is "left" anymore. I think she's an opportunist.

I also believe that once a Republican, that Republican blood never really goes away. I think part of her wishes and prays for the demise of the Democrats--and especially of Obama. With the Republicans back in power, she'll have more to write and complain about. Huffington Post is going down, quickly losing its credibility. When they start lending credence to New York Post and Enquirer stories, that's an indication of pure desperation.

[JamesA1102]

79. Was she ever really on the left.

She didn't like Bush and disagreed with him on the war. But a lot of republicans disagreed with Bush on the war.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

80. Exactly. She probably never was. Even Andrew Sullivan is a better lefty.

He has been much more thoughtful and objective than she has and he is to the right of her.

[JamesA1102]

83. I think she is still a Republican.

She was a conservative Republican and remained on for many years. In 2000 she supported Bush and repeatedly attack Al Gore in her Washington Times column.

Recently her columns blame everything on President Obama. There is no mention of the unprecedented obstruction by the GOP. When she does criticize the Republicans it is usually in the context of the Dems are just as bad as they are.

She sent an undercover reporter into a private fundraiser to record statements by Obama that he then released online to discredit him.

She supported the Bush tax cuts in 2001 and now goes on shows where George Hill or Joe Scarborough spout GOP talking points about them and she doesn't dispute them or try to correct the record in any way.

And where is her column denouncing the GOP "Pledge".

[Radical Activist]

4. Exactly. Perfect example.

Yes, we should push the President left. Even Obama expects that.

But how does Obama stand a chance when even the progressive media won't run a positive story about him or anything he does? How can we expect Obama to push a progressive agenda through the Senate when even our own media outlets are acting like saboteurs? How can we expect progressive ideals to take hold with the public when any progressive action or statement by Obama is completely ignored by our own allies? Our left pundits are hopelessly self-defeating.

[Lindsey]

10. I absolutely agree. I go to the Huffington Post for the other

reasons like the entertainment and living sections. WTF is wrong with the Dems. who are trashing President Obama?????????

I just can't believe how quickly some people seemed to have completely forgotten the horrible Decade of Bush/Cheney. It makes my head explode.:grr:

[southmost]

40. +one brazillion

wish i could k&r a reply

[JNelson6563]

89. Hear, hear!!

Well said friend! :toast:

Julie

[DrToast]

6. Yep, I noticed that earlier in the day. I went on there hoping to find some photos of the crowd.

Nothing!

[ibegurpard]

7. yeah, sure you did

[DrToast]

19. WTF?

You got something to say, spit it out, Sparky.

[DevonRex]

47. That was bizarre, wasn't it? nt

[DrToast]

48. LOL...seriously!!

I still don't know what it was about.

[muffin1]

90. I'm surprised you find that bizarre,

given the fact that yesterday you accused me of lying about volunteering for President Obama.

[quiet.american]

8. Damn straight. I have long stopped going over to HuffFaux.

It's to the point where I won't even click on a link to HuffFaux, so thanks for the jpg.

[Historic NY]

9. I sent them a little note.

[Milo_Bloom]

11. Exactly why I like the Huffington Post

NO BS fluff pieces

[Radical Activist]

13. "Katy Perry makes fun of Sesame Street cancellation"

That's right on the front page. You've got to be kidding. The celebrity gossip BS is reason #1 why I don't take them seriously.

[Milo_Bloom]

14. Yes, that is a celeb gossip piece.. not a BS fluff piece.

[Radical Activist]

16. You don't think celeb gossip is BS fluff?

We'll have to disagree. The Jane Hamsher piece looks like fluffy whining too.

[Milo_Bloom]

43. No. It is celebrity gossip.

[jefferson_dem]

93. I hope you're joking.

If not, i'll just assume you are, ok.

[Drunken Irishman]

15. How is reporting on a massive rally fluff? The Beck rally a few weeks ago was their header...

Or do you not consider that fluff? :eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

17. That was different! That rally was promoted by the media.....

so of course they were gonna write about it,
after investing so much effort!

[impik]

30. But that was a rally she supported. This one isn't, that's all

[Milo_Bloom]

44. Massive? LOL

Other than the "ra ra" factor, what reason would their be to report on it?

[Drunken Irishman]

45. Do you read?

Or are you just trying to fail with cute responses?

Huffington Post spent weeks pimping the Beck/Palin rally and offered it up front page coverage. Was that fluff?

Or was that news? Show your true colors here, Milo. You're one of them, aren't you?

[DevonRex]

50. That's pretty obvious now, isn't it?

:eyes:

[Milo_Bloom]

52. One of Who?

I would certainly say that a rally at the capital that attracts people from all over the country is more newsworthy than a local political rally. I suspect Huffington Post will cover the Jon Stewart/Colbert rally as well. Similarly, I notice that Huffington Post DOESN'T cover the more local political rallies for Beck and O'Reilly appearances currently on tour around the country and I haven't seen a word mentioned about Glen Becks' solo speaking tour? I wonder why, since they are supposedly "pimping" for him??

I remember the coverage of the Palin/Beck rally and found it quite funny, since it was mostly pointing out the hypocrisy and the lunacy of it. I don't remember seeing any coverage of it that could be considered "pimping".

Obama's rally in Wisconsin was a non-event. Nothing new or interesting came out of it. Just a speech by a politician. No new policy announcements. No new directives. Nothing NEW. I am terribly sorry that Huffington Post isn't the "fox news" of the left, where they try to cover every non-event as if it matters.

I for one am quite glad that I can get information from a source that doesn't try to turn every non-event into a piece of political theater.

[DevonRex]

55. A rally attended by 26,000 people, many of whom were college kids, is a NON-EVENT???

You HAVE shown your true colors by what you have written in this thread.

And, by the way: of whom, with an M. That's elementary school grammar.

[Milo_Bloom]

61. Yes, non-event.

[DevonRex]

63. Just so I'm understanding you here. You think a Presidential rally with 26,000

people in attendance AND the Democratic Senate candidate, who is the incumbent and is up for re-election and is DOWN in the polls, is a NON-EVENT?

[Milo_Bloom]

65. Yes.

More people show up to the average Brewers game.

[Drunken Irishman]

58. Got it!

Thanks for proving my point. A rally hosted by the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is a non-story, yet a rally hosted by the media and pushed by the media in opposition to that president is by definition news worthy.

You certainly have proven my point. Thank you, Milo.

Now go back to reading your Huffington Post where their focus, and your obsession, with Glenn Beck continues. I see they've got another story up about your hero. :)

[Milo_Bloom]

64. Yes, non-story.

I love the way you ignored what was said and decided to try and alter it to fit your narative... how 'fox news' of you... no wonder you can't handle huffington post.

By the way..is the glen beck story you talked about the link to the New York Times article and the problems between him and fox news? Again, a non complimentary piece.

[Drunken Irishman]

67. You're absolutely right...

When Glenn Beck holds a rally, it's a story - even though he's saying the same things he's been saying for the last couple years. That's a story.

But when Pres. Obama holds a rally attracting 27,000 people - all of who are potential voters this election, that's nothin'. Doesn't deserve even a mention.

Hell, I'm well beyond the Huffington Post even showing it as a top story! Even a blurb would be warranted.

But nope. It's a non-story. But Beck having a falling out with FOX News is a story.

Obama announcing that he's a Christian by choice - something we've known forever now, IS a story.

Oprah hating Letterman...that's not fluff, right? Man Is Best Friends With Giant Crocodile, Plays With It Like Dog - that's a story!

Awkward family photos! Yup, more important than a speech Obama gave.

Give it up. You're embarrassing yourself and DU in the process.

[Milo_Bloom]

69. Yep.. keep ignoring the part that proved your wrong.

How Huffington post doesn't ever talk about all the LOCAL Glen Beck rallies held in arenas around the country, that probably also attract people willing to pay to hear that idiot speak. Never heard mention of it on the Huffington Post.. wonder why? Could it be because having a local rally where less people show up than to a local baseball game isn't news? While, however, having a NATIONAL rally where more people show up than to the SuperBowl IS news? Nahhhh, it's because they are bias.. of course.

And yes, most of those things ARE, in fact, more important than a political rally in which no new information was given.. no policy announced... and generally NOTHING happened.

[Drunken Irishman]

71. Where did you prove me wrong?

You haven't proven anything.

I'm not talking about Glenn Beck rallies held in areas around the country. I'm talking about their big rally held in D.C., which is comparable to what we saw yesterday with Obama. It was a political rally - so was Beck's.

Yet Huffington Post spent days pimping it out and then covered it on their front page the day of, and after, the event. So why is Beck's political rally, where no new information was given, news and Obama's is fluff?

Stop being so hypocritical and admit the Huffington Post has decided to post nothing positive about Pres. Obama - while giving the teabaggers and their insanity front page spots. Them the facts, my friend. You know it. I know it. Admit it and move on.

[Milo_Bloom]

77. We're talking about comparing similar rallies.

Obama's local rally was similar to beck's local events that, likewise, receive no coverage on the huffington post.

If Obama held a national rally where he called in people from all over the country, it would, likewise, be covered.

[Drunken Irishman]

84. No it wasn't.

It was similar to Beck's rally on Washington. Beck doesn't go host rallies across the country in front of 27,000 people. Show me the last rally, outside of the one in D.C. from Beck this year that drew that many supporters.

The story isn't just the rally, though. If you were tuned in to politics, you'd know there have been three things dogging Democrats this election: Enthusiasm, the youth vote and supporters actually getting out to the polls.

THIS news story, if you can turn off your blinders for just one damn second, is that Pres. Obama went to a campus and energized 27,000 of them to come out and listen to him speak. It is a campaign and campaigns, by the weakest definition, even, are news worthy.

Beyond that, though, when was the last time a sitting U.S. President drew a crowd that large for a speech about the midterm election?

It is news worthy. The fact you continue to believe it isn't, ultimately, shows just how truly biased you are. Now go back to reading the Huffington Post - where What's Your Favorite Coffee is obviously a bigger news story than Obama's rally.

[Milo_Bloom]

98. Of course it is.

Actually, Beck DOES go host rallies across the country. He recently did a tour with O'Reilly and they sold out several arenas around the country. Guess what? It wasn't on the Huffington Post because it wasn't a newsworthy event. They even charged money for the tickets AND tickets sold on the resale market for multiple times face value.. STILL not covered by Huffington Post.

So, President Obama drew less people than show up to an average brewers game?? He SHOULD draw that many people.. he's the PRESIDENT. The fact that people showed up is great, but the further fact that the media didn't sit up and take notice and drool all over the story doesn't mean they are biased.. it means YOU are biased thinking that they should cover a local political rally where nothing special different or new happened.

[ampad]

100. I think I am getting a headache

With you trying to explain the difference. For the record, I agree with you about Huffington Post. Let us put it this way. HP covered a rally in which the host of the rally is crazy right wing freak. On the other hand, a rally hosted by the freaking President of the United States is a non-story? Nuff said right there.

[Milo_Bloom]

101. Different rallies.

The HP DIDN'T cover the same type of rallies hosted by the right wing freak.

[DevonRex]

72. You're. nt

[jefferson_dem]

94. Yup.

I'm thinking this poster is just "yanking our chain" and not interested in serious dialogue. My advice: smirk, dismiss, and move on.

[DevonRex]

49. Jesus, you've jumped the final shark. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

54. It is so sad that democrats feel they need a fox news.

I do find it funny how red in the face they all get when the news organizations and sources they WANT to be the fox news of the left turn out to be more independent.

People SAY they want unbiased news, but the moment the source doesn't give them the news they PERSONALLY think others may be interested in... look out.

[DevonRex]

56. Milo, you know something? Your posts are the non-event in this thread. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

66. Explain how this is a newsworthy event?

[DevonRex]

68. Um, that should end in a period. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

70. So you can't answer the question?

[DevonRex]

73. I already said that your posts are non-events. I'll just correct your spelling and grammar. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

78. And thus, admit you were proven wrong.

Thanks for proving my point so well.

[DevonRex]

81. Oh my. It seems I must instruct you in logic as well as spelling and grammar.

But you'll be required to purchase a textbook and have a laptop.

[Milo_Bloom]

92. When one is left with only grammar left...

.. they have conceded the point.

Thanks for playing.

[DevonRex]

96. You have one too many lefts in that sentence. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

97. Thanks for admitting I was right.

[FrenchieCat]

12. We live by the media,

and they will be the end of us all....

and they won't care a wit,
as long as they are still getting paid.

Sometimes I ask myself, how can they do it,
day in, day out.....fuck over the American people like this?
I have no answer, other than they are shameless.

They are part of the reason that progressivism,
although many Americans believe in the policies that it espouses,
can't get anywhere....because they decide, they omit, they give us talking points
with an agenda, and then they report.

Not only is it inexcusable, but we'll be kissing their 3 day old dirty drawers,
and quoting from their cesspool tomorrow, like we don't know any better.

99% of the media is rotten to the core,
and the only thing the netroots will get by following them around,
is an hastening our very own demise.
And the media whores and their pimps will simply laugh all the way to the bank!
They won't call anyone a whiner or a quitter; they just whisper what
dumbass-easy-to-manipulated-suckers we are under their breath,
as they go and cash their check.

When 4 weeks before an election, the only thing to find is negativity about Democrats,
especially the President, from a source that is supposed to be "progressive",
you know that the fix is in.....and did I mention? They don't give a shit....
not about children, not about families, not about war, not about fucking anything......
just the dollars that being on the "right" side brings, and what that will buy
they own children and themselves.

Is there anything in there about the Unity Rally on October 2nd?
Or are they following the Network/Cable agenda......?
That if a tree falls in the forest, and no one heard it....did it really fall?

[southmost]

41. you're hitting the head on the every damn nail

I guess the complicit media is too, but unfortunately the media is nailing our coffins

[Radical Activist]

18. I made a comment to that effect on two stories but they weren't approved.

It's awfully hypocritically for a website so critical of Obama to be that thinned skin about taking criticism. Or in other words, if you can't take it, then don't dish it out.

[JamesA1102]

75. Censorship on that site is terrible

You can't say a critical word about Arianna or any of her friends.

[impik]

20. She hates him as much as Glenn Beck is

[gort]

21. Huffington in name only. It will now be Newsweek online

Howard Fineman is now the voice of Huff Po.

God, I miss Media Horse Online even more now.

A horse is a horse, of course....

[depakid]

22. The lead story is the unprecedented arrest of nation's leader for his role in the financial crisis

which stands in stark contrast to America, where everyone from banksters, to torturers, corrupt public officials and even food poisoners just walks away scot free despite mountains of evidence.

Pretty significant stuff, if you ask me.

[FrenchieCat]

23. one story out of 20......30 days before an election is monumental!

I'm sure you'd believe that they should be applauded for that
spark of bravery in reporting!
Or is that a reprint from another media source?

[depakid]

24. Huh?

[FrenchieCat]

25. I think "Doh!" is more appropriate......

:crazy:

[depakid]

26. Either one since I have no idea what you're talking about

[FrenchieCat]

27. I feel the same about what you're talking about often....as well.

[grantcart]

28. No as per normal you have got it wrong.

The screaming headline was for a 'World Leader'.


The arrest of a leader of Iceland whose population is less than 400,000 and has been an independent country only since WWII.


Danes viewing the headline would be choking with laughter.

[depakid]

29. Typical American parochialism

This is major world news.

Beyond his diehard followers- how many people do you think really care about a routine campaign appearance at a university?

[FrenchieCat]

31. This has nothing to do with Huffpo's media bias.......

since there are many stories on that page.....
and yet, it appears you want to prove some kind of point,
by highlighting one. How ridiculous.

Perhaps you can start a thread about the World Leader of Iceland....
Wouldn't that be more meaningful to your point? :shrug:

[depakid]

33. There are a lot of stories- most of them editorials filed the day earlier!

The leading news on the site is a different beast, as regular readers know.

And speaking of news- most people's world's don't revolve around the daily campaign stops of Barack Obama.

[FrenchieCat]

35. Yep.....30 days before an election that will determine redistricting, the next two years, etc...

the President attracting 27,000 in a moments notice couldn't be as important
as when Fox News and all of their friends advertise for
the Teabaggers like 24/7 for 3 weeks, and end up with
100,000- if that, and you read about 20 stories about that
on Huffpo for like a week after the fact.

Yep.....I'm sure you don't follow what this President has to say,
but then, you are so much more connected to the "issues"
than us simple people.

[grantcart]

32. Whether it is world news or DU news the fact is that you misquoted

the screaming headline from "World Leader" to "National Leader".

It is common for your tactics and the fact that you have trumpted up the irrelevent and inaccurate "American parochialism" is evidence that you have trouble with complex facts.

Citing an Icelandic politician as a "World Leader" when the 'country' that until recently operated as an independent province of Denmark and is barely bigger than my small hometown of Spokane in population simply shows the extremes that you will go to twist facts to fit your preconceived point of view. Huffington Post has made itself look ridiculous with the headline. Iceland's economic situation was unlike any other country. Not only did the government openly encourage the country to abandon all other industries to become an offshore banking community that accounted for most of the economic activity it gave 80% of its external debt to the banks to hold. The result was catastrophic with its stock exchange losing more than 90% of its capital.

What's next awaiting for earth shaking news from the world leader of the Isle of Man?

[depakid]

34. Oh please- surely you can find something more significant to quibble about than that!

It is kind of amusing though for someone from provincial Eastern Washington where Gonzaga basketball is the biggest game in town to be whinging about the purported insignificance of Iceland.

btw: breaking news: Iceland's former leader may face GFC charge

http://www.smh.com.au/world/icelands-former-leader-may-face-gfc-charge-20100929-15wko.html

[FrenchieCat]

36. The point is that Huffpo is biased against Dems in this election....

and it shows. period.

[depakid]

37. LOL

Apparently you read a different site than I (or any other objective person) does.

[JTFrog]

62. "Show me a man who claims he is objective and I'll show you a man with illusions." n/t

[depakid]

99. It's not difficult- researchers do it all the time

Here's how you two can do it, too.

Create some criteria like "supports progressive policies" and "supports right wing Republican policies" and "neutral" then count the number of stories in each category.

Do it several times over the course of a month, using randomly chosen dates.

Put the numbers side by side.

Voila!

[DevonRex]

60. OMG. You mean a politician from ICELAND was arrested????? Elevens!!!111!!111

[vaberella]

38. ~shrugs~ MSM, filthy jackasses. Anyway HP is infested by right wing ideologues. n/t

[southmost]

39. its become a rampant meme on both left and right wing sites

It almost seems scripted on all the sites (unfortunately even this one).

The negative spins on any news coming out of the white house from both the right and left wing sites is getting repetitious and boring. (its losing touch with the public).

Most of the voters I know are happy with President Obama. Maybe he is not the best representation of the Democratic Party's platform, but he's the best we have had in more than three decades.


That reminds me of an old Eddie Murphy joke, about getting released from jail and eating a common cracker and savoring it like it was the best damn cracker he'd ever eaten.

Thats how i feel. I feel like I have been released from the prison of repuklican rule for 30 ++ years, and it just feels great; I definitely don't want to go back to that prison again. Most people who voted for him feel the same way.

The bat-guano crazy reich wing just happens to have a huge advantage in controlling the message.
The have the money, the media, and the attention.

[Jennicut]

42. I gave up on the Huff Post awhile ago. They put more effort into their entertainment section

then the section on politics. Pathetic.

[Uzybone]

46. The HuffPo is not liberal, its another whore

They will publish and link to whatever will get the most readers and pump up Arianna's bottom line.

[DevonRex]

51. IMO, Huffpo is a RW rag that pretends to be otherwise. Like FDL. nt

[Whisp]

53. they constantly crave drama and conflict

and switch political sides whenever its better for their putrid headlines and attention getting for the hits they need for their sites.

sell outs extraordinaire.
snake oil sales.
no integrity and
fair weather fuckheads.

[DevonRex]

57. Yep, Huffpo is a corporate media whore. They say anything to sell ads and dupe the ignorant. nt

[BlueIdaho]

59. Totally.

HP is not a left leaning or progressive news outlet. Never has been, never will be. HP just hated Bush - like 90% of America.

[JamesA1102]

74. Watch out you're dissing Arianna

all her little sychopants will be after you now. I know, I wrote a post that was critical of her and I'm still getting crap about it. But all those people are doing is defending a millionaire who has lied about Dems in the past to help the GOP.

[DevonRex]

82. I'm still trying to figure out how she ever became somebody that people listened to at all.

So she married a Puke who came out of the closet later on and she has some money. Oh, and she has a crush on Maher, who is also unatainable. Still not seeing what makes her important.

Have you ever figured out why people listen to her?

[JamesA1102]

85. Like Ron Paul

She spoke out against Bush on the war so many on the left started to listen to her. I think she has credibility problem that date back to 2000 when she regularly lied about Al Gore in her Washington Times column.

[DevonRex]

86. Oooohhh. I do get it now. And I did not know about her lies

about Al Gore. Silly me, not reading the WT. :) Wow, shouldn't that have been a huge red flag about her real political beliefs? I'm even more amazed now than I was before.

[JamesA1102]

88. Take a look at this site

http://www.google.com/custom?q=huffington+gore&sa=go&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3Ac32a032061318778%3B&domains=dailyhowler.com&sitesearch=dailyhowler.com

They kept a good record what happened in 2000.

But also look at her recent actions. She goes on talks shows then sits there silently while George Will or Joe Scarborough spout BS GOP talking points about the Bush tax cuts for the rich. And where is her column attacking the GOP "Pledge"?

[ampad]

104. Yea I think I witnessed that

These are the same folks that will call you a Obama cheerleader for defending the President. Same shit,different day.

[jillan]

87. Just like the Msm - they didn't show it. Randi Rhodes said today that CNN was dissecting what Obama

said, rather than show it, and they were stuck on the fact that he called himself a Christian.

omfg:banghead: :banghead: I swear they give the teabaggers more live press than they give Obama. I am sick of it, and I'm sure most of us on DU are as well.

[Cowpunk]

91. When did "Chill the fuck out, I GOT THIS" turn into...

"Why are you chillin' the fuck out? I THOUGHT YOU HAD MY BACK?"

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

95. TLDR So what happened? Did Obama fuck everything up again today?

Ariana is playing the left like fools.

[creon]

103. yes she is

Huffington looks like an opportunist. I think that she is working to be a major player in the commentariat.

[backscatter712]

102. Fuck the Arianna Huff n' Puff

Just trying to divide progressives...