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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:07 PM
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PPP: Rahm has a 50/30 favorability rating in Chicago--he's strongest with Liberals!? 59/19
Looking at Rahm

It's a good thing for Rahm Emanuel that he's not going back to Illinois to run for Governor or Senate...but they like him in Chicago.

Our Illinois poll this week found that statewide Emanuel is a pretty unpopular figure. Only 29% of voters have a favorable opinion of him with 50% viewing him negatively. He's pretty universally reviled by Republicans (5/77 favorability) while Democrats are positive toward him but more tepidly so (52/21 favorability.) Independents split against him by a 21/62 margin as well.

Although there's a general sense that it's been liberal Democrats disenchanted with Emanuel he's actually more popular with them than he is with folks from the moderate or conservative wing of the party. Liberal Democrats give him a +40 favorability (59/19), moderate ones give him a +26 (51/25), and with the conservative wing of the party he's at a +14 (29/15).

Emanuel may not be very well liked down state but his numbers in the city of Chicago are strong. 50% of city voters on the poll said they had a favorable opinion of him to 30% with a negative one. In the rest of the state he's at a 24/54. It's going to be a crowded and likely strong field of candidates but Emanuel starts out with high name recognition and a pretty good degree of popularity in the city.

www.publicpolicypolling.com
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:12 PM
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1. I'm a liberal and I like the guy. Of course, being a New Yorker means I like his style.
The baseless demonization of Rahm by the Whiny Wing of the Democratic Party does not compute to the large majority of liberals who also strongly approve of president Obama's job performance.
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Mefistofeles Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 08:59 AM
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16. So do you agree or disagree with Biden's characterization of "the base" as whiners?
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 08:59 AM by Mefistofeles
Unless you think the "whiny wing" is the same as the base.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 04:34 PM
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24. Biden could have been more exacting in his description, but his point is essentially correct.
For example, Biden could've said, "The PUMAs and shit-stirring professional left media whores should stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This President has done an incredible job. He’s kept his promises."

Or Biden could've said, "The POL (Perpetually Outraged "Liberals"), many of whom never liked Pres. Obama in the first place, should stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This President has done an incredible job. He’s kept his promises."


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Mefistofeles Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:10 PM
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26. In other words, Biden grossly exaggerated?
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 05:11 PM by Mefistofeles
Since your definition of "base" leaves out the overwhelming majority of Democrats (Blacks, Latinos, etc. who don't even know what PUMA is, and who are not part of the media).
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:17 PM
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28. I can only speak for myself. Biden's viewpoint is different. I certainly didn't take offense...
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 05:20 PM by ClarkUSA
... and I consider myself a liberal and a contributing member of "the base" because I knew who he was referring to and it wasn't me.

I'm not interested in arguing semantics, though. If you have a problem with what Biden said, go write him a letter at http://www.whitehouse.gov
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:35 PM
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19. Some of you guys are unlike any liberals I've ever seen.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:59 PM
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21. Then you haven't "seen" the large majority of self-described liberals because close to 90% of us...
... strongly support President Obama's job performance, according to every major credible poll taken since Day One 2009.

Realistically, it's "some of you guys" that "are unlike any liberals" most Americans have "ever seen".
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 04:26 PM
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23. ?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I guess I'm just an old hippie. Voted for old commies like McGovern. Fought to stop the Vietnam war from someplace other than a keyboard.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 04:46 PM
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25. Um, we're in the 21st century now. And McGovern lost big time.
We've come a long way, baby.



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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:00 AM
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36. Dayum! Go get'em, Clark!
:spray: :spray: :rofl: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Mefistofeles Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:14 PM
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27. "strongly support"? 90%? "every major poll"?
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 05:18 PM by Mefistofeles
Really?

That can't be right, in view of the fact that in the latest Gallup, 74% approve (that's not 90%, let along "strongly approve). Can you please cite the polls which found 90% of liberals who "strongly support" of the President's job?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:27 PM
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29. Go check the DU archives going back to early '09. There's a large majority in every credible poll.
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 05:38 PM by ClarkUSA
The wording is different depending on the poll. Not sure which Gallup poll you're referring to.

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Mefistofeles Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 08:53 PM
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34. This gallup
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 08:54 PM by Mefistofeles
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

If you scroll down you can see his approval among self-identified liberals, which is 74%, without a breakdown of "strongly" support or "somewhat" support.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:28 PM
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30. Rahm has been hard at work for Hillary in 2012
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:32 PM
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31. What do you mean?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:12 PM
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2. it's a match made in heaven then. they can have him. Hopefully, the rest of the state & country
don't start smoking whatever caused those poll results in Chicago.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:31 PM
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3. Good. He can tell them to shut up (among other things) instead of us since they love him.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:49 PM
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6. Winters are tough in Chicago
People don't have such thin skins.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:37 PM
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4. More proof DU is statistically not representative of liberals
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:43 PM
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5. He's a hawk and can barely speak without using 4 letter words. Not for me
and I live in Chicago.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 06:52 PM
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10. You worried the City of Chicago will invade Iran?
Or that a Chicago politician would use a four-letter word? Now that would be novel!

Actually, I think Emmanuel is just the kind of colorful, connected figure Chicagoans might want to bring attention to their (our) city. Getting attention is one of the main problems here. I don't think anyone wants another Michael Bilandic. Now, a nine-fingered, cussing, world-known Jewish mayor. That would be interesting.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:47 PM
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15. ROFL!
:thumbsup:

:rofl:
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 05:34 PM
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7. I know, that every time Rahm said "It's a big fucking deal" that liberals and progressvies...
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:13 PM
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18. Fine, send Biden with him. I have no problem with that. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 05:40 PM
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 06:41 PM
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9. good advice
I suggest you take it
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 08:24 PM
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12. Have you ever not attacked me personally in a response?
???
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 06:55 PM
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11. Plus 1 million
:kick:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:04 PM
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13. If Rahm wins, blacks will continue to go without city contracts.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:15 PM
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14. In overview, for anybody who is truly a political junky,
the Chicago mayoral race is going to be a real barn-burner.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:11 PM
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17. Looks like we have some work to do in Chicago
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:36 PM
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20. I'll bet his approval ratings are even higher in Hell.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:35 PM
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33. I heard Rahm's taking over
whenever the Devil decides to step down! :rofl: :P ;) :)
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:49 AM
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37. He's popular in New Jersey, too? n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 04:16 PM
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22. 50% is pretty bad for a Democrat in a Democratic town.
Obama rates much higher in Chicago. And 30% is an unusually high negative rating for someone who isn't in public office. Those numbers don't look good for Rahm.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:33 PM
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32. That's not surprising. Just because the professional left whiners don't like him,
doesn't mean he's not popular among Dems. Let's face it, they don't anyone.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:56 AM
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35. A Chicago "Liberal"
Remember, this is a one-party city...thus the definitions expand. The divisions aren't liberal or conservative as much as ethnic and social. Blacks are by and large liberal however their views on religious issues are more conservative and so are the people who represent them. Hispanics have their bloc, Poles theirs as well as the infamous "Lakefront Liberals" who are predominately Jewish and GLTBQ. Remember, Rahm represented the 5th district that includes many of those Lakefronters and they had no problems with him in the House or the White House.

Initially I didn't think Rahm would do well but after speaking with a friend who works inside City Hall it looks like Richie is quietly going to annoint him as the heir apparent and pull ranks around him. There are really few other big names ready to get into this...Jesse Jackson Jr. is having his own problems and Luis Guiterrez has no interest in the job. If Daley gives his open blessing, Rahm could well be on his way to working on the 5th floor.
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