Obama's supported Dem candidate over Andrew Romanoff, Michael Bennet, losing to the teabagger in CO

[brentspeak]

With http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20101003/NEWS/101009913/1008&parentprofile=1001">independents pushing Ken Buck over the top.

And now Bennet isn't quite sure now if he even wants to be seen http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/michael-bennet-mum-on-obama-vi.html">campaigning in public with Obama.

Maybe this possible disaster and Blanch Lincoln's doomed reelection are why Duhm high-tailed it.

[ProSense]

1. Yay?

First lady to visit Colorado next month on Bennet's behalf

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[ProSense]

3. Does the fact that the First Lady is campaigning for Bennet upset you? n/t

[otohara]

5. Perhaps You Missed The "?"

in the Subject line?

Now feel free to insult another DU member.

[Nite Owl]

4. They don't want progressive

candidates it seems even if it means losing the seat. Look at Blanch Lincoln she was embarrassingly against his agenda and yet they backed her and she is what 20-30points behind.

[ProSense]

6. "They don't want progressive candidates it seems "

How do you explain the President campaigning for Feingold, Boxer, Blumenthal, etc.?

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[alsame]

8. No ConservaDem challengers? Just a guess. nt

[jaxx]

9. What's a ConservaDem?

[alsame]

11. A conservative Dem, Blue Dog, DINO, etc. Rachel Maddow uses

the ConservaDem term a lot to refer to Dems who often vote against the Democrats in the House and Senate.

[jaxx]

15. Thanks.

[Nite Owl]

33. They have no choice there

Bennet and Lincoln were primaried. They had the chance to back the progressive but instead backed the candidates that don't vote for the agenda that President Obmana campaigned on. Lincoln especially caused all kinds of problems yet she got money and the backing of the WH.

[treestar]

10. Must be a conservative district

In which a candidate further left would be losing even more.

[brentspeak]

14. The state of Colorado is a district?

Obama beat McCain by 6 percentage points in CO two years ago.

[Robbins]

12. Reality

Romanoff In polls leading up to primarys did worse than bennet In general election polls.Polls among registered voters show
Bennet could win.Presidents always support sitting senators.

[brentspeak]

16. Truth: You're wrong

Polls leading up to the primary showed the opposite of what you claim:

http://www.squarestate.net/diary/666/another-poll-shows-romanoff-is-stronger-general-election-candidate

(Today a new poll came out that showed that Romanoff is the stronger Democratic candidate against either Norton or Buck. Against either candidate, Bennet loses handily.)

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Colorado finds Buck earning 48% support against incumbent Democratic Senator Michael Bennett who gets 39% of the vote.

If former House Speaker Andrew Romanoff is his Democratic opponent, Buck leads by a narrower 47% to 42% margin.

A month ago, Buck posted a 46% to 41% lead over Bennet and a 45% to 39% lead over Romanoff.

Obama was asked repeatedly by the CO Democrats to stay out of the primary race; he ignored their requests, and the DNC put all their money and resources into co-opting Colorado's primary to get Bennet the win.

[karynnj]

17. The polls were mixed - there were ones showing an advantage in either Dem

They were all posted here - as parts of the arguments to vote for either of them.

Here's a table of some - the source is right wing, but it's just a table of the polls - including the 4 possible head to heads. http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=5604

[brentspeak]

18. Which polls?

[jefferson_dem]

26. Here's one, just before the primary. Why do you want to refight this shit?

If Romanoff comes from behind to beat Bennet, the general-election race will start out a
tie, no matter who the Republicans pick. He trails Norton, 43-42, but tops Buck by the
same margin. Romanoff was up on Norton, 43-41, and Buck, 41-38, in May. Bennet,
however, would be favored over Norton, 46-40, and Buck, 46-43. Buck was down 45-39
to Bennet three months ago, but Norton has lost ground, after being down then only 44-
41. All four are now viewed more negatively in voters’ eyes, particularly Buck, who has
picked up steam in the head-to-heads despite going from 19-24 to 26-46.
While winning the primary would probably eventually close the gap, Romanoff currently
gets significantly less of his own party’s vote against either Republican than does Bennet.
Bennet also retains more of the Democrats in either of his potential matchups than do the
Republicans of the GOP voters, whereas Romanoff trails both Republicans in that
category. Surprisingly, Buck has consolidated his own base more than Norton has,
despite lagging in the primary. Independents favor either Democrat by seven or nine
points, except in the Bennet-Buck race, in which Buck leads 40-39, the same as in May,
when the Republicans both won the unaffiliateds by a few points in the other matchups.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_810.pdf

[brentspeak]

27. "except in the Bennet-Buck race, in which Buck leads 40-39"

Independents favor either Democrat by seven or nine
points, except in the Bennet-Buck race, in which Buck leads 40-39, the same as in May,
when the Republicans both won the unaffiliateds by a few points in the other matchups.

You managed to dispute your own claim that Bennet would have been the stronger candidate against Buck; independents are giving Buck the strong edge now that Bennet is the candidate.

Obama and the Democratic establishment bulldozed Michael Bennet into this position completely against the wishes of the Colorado state Democratic party, and even arrogantly ignored the state party's by-laws of non-interference during primaries. They will be completely at fault for a Buck victory.

[jefferson_dem]

28. Read the table.

Bennet up by 3 on Buck. Romanoff up by 1 on Buck.

Bottom line: you're OP is full of FAIL but it wouldn't matter anyway. We have one Democratic candidate for Senate in CO. Time to put your sensitivities aside and support the Democrat, eh. Perhaps you would you prefer the 'bagger?

[brentspeak]

30. I'm not a Colorado resident, so my "support" or "non support" is irrelevant

I, however, am a Democrat from another state who doesn't appreciate the arrogant stupidity of the Democratic establishment who meddled in a primary they had no right to meddle in and which very well might result in a Senate seat being handed over to a Tea Bagger.

[jefferson_dem]

31. You're on a *Democratic* discussion board whining about the *Democratic* Senate nominee in CO.

That's not irrelevant, in my opinion.

[Democrats_win]

13. CO must make sure Bum Buck doesn't become our next senator.

Recall CO turned blue in 2008. How can we go forward if we elect an tea brain?

[Esse Quam Videri]

19. Hopefully Romanoff will run again

in six years to try to unseat Buck. Bennet is done..... and was done as soon as he somehow became the nominee.

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[DevonRex]

21. I've put in about 120 hours calling unaffiliateds. They're leaning Bennet

2 to 1. That's just my personal experience, but considering the fact that I'm calling the most conservative area east of the continental divide, I'm pretty confident about my numbers.

That's not to say they'll all go to the polls but I've been encouraged by the numbers. On the days that I've called registered Democrats, I've been surprised to see how many are low information voters. They're certainly not a majority, but enough to make me crazy. By this time they should all know that Buck is anti-abortion in ALL cases, anti-birth control and that he's a teabagger.

[wndycty]

22. So essentially if Bennett Romanoff then Romanoff would have really had his ass kicked

:kick:

[KingFlorez]

23. Pathetic

Don't you ever get tired of trying to start trouble?

[jefferson_dem]

24. Romanoff polled even worse.

Get real.

Stop the hate and division.

Support Democrats.

[young but wise]

32. +1

[speppin]

25. I had supported Romanoff as Bennett was too close to Arne Duncan

[jefferson_dem]

29. You do know that Romanoff was state co-chair of the DLC, right?

Facts...stubborn things.