White House denies that Obama/Clinton is being considered

[karynnj]

Reading this article it is clear that thus really is wistful thinking on the part of Woodward.

Here is the WH (Robert Gibbs)response:

"No one in the White House is discussing this as a possibility," Gibbs told CNN Wednesday morning.

CNN notes:

Obama advisers outside the White House note privately that it's significant that Woodward attributed the theory to Clinton advisers and not White House aides or Obama advisers, signaling this may only have traction among Clinton supporters hoping she would move one step closer to the Oval Office and be set up as the likely Democratic nominee for president in 2016.

Here's why I think it is Woodward's hope even more than Clinton's advisers hope.

Now you talk to Hillary Clinton or her advisers and they say 'no, no there's not a political consideration here,'" Woodward continued. "Of course the answer is -- you point out to them that her clout around the world when she goes to Europe, Asia, anywhere, is in part, not just because she's secretary of state or because she was married to President Clinton, (but) that people see a potential future president in her."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/06/obama.clinton/

While Clinton is a competent SoS, I really do not see that she has lived up to the hype of being a superstar S0S, that the media saw as possible when she was named. I can't think of any foreign policy triumph, other than an Armenian/Turkish resolution where she really was credited with being important in keeping Armenia from getting cold feet. This idea - that she is more influential because she is seen as a future President - really does not seem to have any back up. (She IS seen as a SoS with extremely high name recognition and political support of her own.)

[ProSense]

1. Exactly.

"While Clinton is a competent SoS, I really do not see that she has lived up to the hype of being a superstar S0S..."

It's interesting to watch the Hillary hawks push this. Aren't they satisfied with her position as Secretary of State? Not enough power?

Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of those who haven't gotten over the election.

[Aramchek]

2. some people will never get over it. at every opportunity they try to relive the dream.

[smalll]

3. The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die ---

Hillary IS 45!

[AtomicKitten]

4. The website is reserved for 2012.

http://www.hillaryis45.com/

the theme already in use http://hillbuzz.org/2010/02/23/hillary-is-45/

Go on now and get yourself a "Hillary is 45 in 2012" avatar. You know you want to.

[Aramchek]

8. are you joking?

[AtomicKitten]

19. unfortunately not at all

and it's part of why this person was delivered pizza

[Aramchek]

7. you would think if you really wanted Hillary to be next,

you wouldn't make every effort you can to trash and bring down Obama.

But I guess that's my fault for thinking rationally.

[POAS]

18. From Aerosmith; "Dream On"

Yeah, sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laugh, sing for the tear
Sing with me, if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream until the dream come true
Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/a/aerosmith/#share

[muffin1]

10. I didn't know Bob Woodward

was such a loyal Hillary supporter. Is he the 'some people' to which you refer?

[Aramchek]

12. no, he's just a hack trying to incite conflict. Listen to Hillary,

she basically said Woodward's full o' shit.

[muffin1]

13. Oh, I heard her refute that today.

Just didn't know what you were talking about when you said something about some people won't get over it.

[awoke_in_2003]

24. Bob Woodward...

has done NOTHING substantive since Nixon. Hell, he fawned over Bush. Methinks Bernstein did all the real work with Watergate.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

23. Can't say I blame 'em, but there comes a point where you just have to move on.

[Metric System]

5. The upside is that this "story" has provided some of you fresh opportunities to get in digs at her.

[Arkana]

6. Hillary's going to be almost 70 when 2016 rolls around.

She's not going to run again. It's just not happening.

And I'm glad Gibbs was very unequivocal in his denial.

[Aramchek]

9. Hillary made it as clear as day when asked about this.

She is finished with Presidential politics.

[ClarkUSA]

11. "Clinton advisors" would never keep floating this w/o approval by the Clintons themselves.

It's pretty obvious that despite protestations to the contrary, Hillary and Bill are still yearning to be co-presidents again, Joe Biden be damned.

Biden better watch his back.

[Metric System]

14. Riiiiight

[jesus_of_suburbia]

15. Hillary isn't out to get Joe. She would only do this as a favor to Barack.

She's not out to get anyone. She MIGHT reluctantly do it to serve her country.

There is nothing wrong with Joe, but the ticket might need some energy, we'll just have to see.

[Qutzupalotl]

16. Has that ever happened before: jettisoning a VP for the 2nd term?

It sounds unprecedented or at least hard to spin as a positive. It'd be like saying choosing the first VP was a mistake. So I don't see this going anywhere.

[Metric System]

17. It rarely happens. I think the last time was in the 70s.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

20. FDR did for his 4th term

[AndrewP]

21. It sounds like someone decided to float a trial balloon in the media

Who knows who exactly. Woodward isn't a hack journalist, so somebody wanted this out there. I don't think it has to be an pro-Hillary conspiracy though. I think she is doing the best job she can as SoS. Some of the anti-Clinton digs at every opportunity make me roll my eyes.

[ClarkUSA]

22. One of Woodward's sources is Mark Penn. I think that counts as a "pro-Hillary conspiracy".

On page 26 of Obama Wars, Woodward writes that Mark Penn, a Hillary Clinton adviser and confidant, has always thought the Switcheroo could happen in 2012, even back before Clinton accepted Obama's Secretary of State offer:

Penn always had his eye on the prize — the White House...

Was Penn one of the "Hillary Clinton advisers" that Woodward was referring to yesterday? Probably! Because Woodward basically told Larry King the same thing a week ago that he told John King yesterday, but he framed it as something that had already been revealed in his book."

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/10/obama_administration_denies_bo.html