President Obama just endorsed Senate health care compromise even without a public insurance option!

[Better Believe It]

Obama backs Senate health care compromise
USA Today
September 9, 2009

President Obama just endorsed the proposed Senate health care compromise, even if it lacks a public insurance option.

"The Senate made critical progress last night with a creative new framework that I believe will help pave the way for final passage and a historic achievement on behalf of the American people," Obama said at a health care event on the White House grounds.

The plan forged by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, is still aimed "at increasing choice and competition and lowering cost," the president said, urging members to stick with the long and difficult legislative process.

"With so much at stake, this is well worth all of our efforts," Reid said.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/12/obama-backs-senate-health-care-compromise/1

[phleshdef]

1. Is there one liberal "hero" that hasn't so far? Krugman, Dean, Weiner., Obama... all corporatists!

[frazzled]

14. All those have spoken well of the new deal, but everyone has their fingers in their ears

For example, Krugman today:

Here’s what’s being reported. No public option, but a trigger which is unlikely to be pulled. But some good stuff in exchange: nonprofit plans available through the exchanges, plus Medicare buy-ins for the 55-65 set (me! me! me!).

If this is the final plan, it’s better than most of us were expecting — and definitely good enough to go with.

But it's not called a public option! But Jane Hamsher, the one-hit-wonder screenplay writer, says it stinks!

Anyone who is interested in outcomes, who makes even the most modest attempt to understand the policy issues ... is relieved a bit by the compromise (if it holds).
Anyone who likes slogans, doesn't read or follow the issues, is screaming.

Go figure. I'm learning to ignore it all.

[phleshdef]

16. "Anyone who likes slogans, doesn't read or follow the issues, is screaming."... just like teabaggers

[impik]

26. Exactly. Go check Kos hysterical post over at the DK. It's unbelievable

He doesn't even know what's in the bill, and he lashes at the Dems and the president like they killed his cat. Stunning.

[impik]

25. Left-Wing Teabaggers, starting 2009.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. I call BS. We all know Obama vowed to veto any bill without a PO

I read it on DU...

at least a hundred times.

Granted, half of those were mass postings from one oddly-tolerated all-but-admitted sock puppet, but still...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. LOL

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. Nope, the only recent, post campaign vow he made was that no one with

pre-existing conditions should be denied coverage...of course he didn't say what would happen when they couldn't pay the premium did he????

[MNDemNY]

3. Are you surprised?

He will "support" (and sign) ANYTHING that is passed called "Health Care Reform"...Anything at all.(And many here are just fine with that.)

[daninthemoon]

5. Tell me I'm wrong, but are we about to give the health insurance

companies exactly what they want?

[MNDemNY]

7. Well. not "exactly".

[ShortnFiery]

8. Bingo! Yet some here will believe in President Obama no matter how many times

he supports Wall Street and the MIC over the average American wage slave.

Hey! We are not a part of President Obama's nor Dean's, Weiner's, Krugman's, et. al., BIG CORPORATE CLUB. They can NOT relate to US ... at all! :grr:

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Half of DU can't relate to us either.

[ShortnFiery]

20. You got that right.

I do believe that not only am I wasting my time here ... but that the only true change us average Americans can affect is LOCAL. GO GREENS! :patriot: I wish we had some of you good folks running for office in my area. :hi:

[phleshdef]

18. LOL, you just accused Krugman, Dean and Weiner of being in a big corporate club.

You can officially never be taken seriously or credible ever again. You are all outrage for the sake of outrage. You care about nothing more other than how well you can throw around slogans and buzzwords. Consider yourself a tea bagger with liberal interests.

[vaberella]

34. Did Rockefellar and Whitehouse say anything yet?

But yeah the clowns on here--bashing the many Dems who actually like this version...well I don't know. Even someone who on average I think doesn't like Obama as President, a poster here...prefers this and sees it as a step in the right direction.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. It appears it will be less bad for them rather than a total nightmare.

What they want is no change at all.

[dflprincess]

15. "Coverage" for more, not health care for all

that's what it is.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. *sigh*

[dtotire]

12. We Won't Need a Public Option

If this gets in the bill. It will be better than a public option.


<snip>
Under discussion among Senate Democrats was a proposal that would require insurance companies to spend no less than 90% of the insurance premiums they take in on health services, effectively limiting how much they can reap in profit. The health bill the House passed
last month contains a similar provision, though it sets the minimum at 85%.


<snip>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126030062798482341.htm

[Better Believe It]

17. Really. How are you going to enforce it? I know. Voluntary enforcement!

Trust them!

[Inuca]

29. Ever heard of somthing called

a LAW?

Also, some perspective http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/9/812330/-The-MAJOR-health-care-nugget-you-are-missing.-

Nevermind though. Stirring up shit is much more fun than facts or actual thinking.

[phleshdef]

19. Not to mention its the biggest step towards single payer in 44 years.

[ipaint]

30. Yes, a collective single payment by taxpayers

to for profit insurance parasites every month. Yippee!!!

[phleshdef]

37. Another poster in love with catchphrases and buzz words and no understanding of the truth.

[jefferson_dem]

22. "Public option" has become the buzz word litmus test for "purity/protesty" types.

It doesn't matter what the "public option" provides, or what the alternatives are...

[polichick]

13. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

:sarcasm:

[jefferson_dem]

21. Good!

Keep the reform train moving. We'll get there.

Naysayers be damned...

[Better Believe It]

23. All is not lost. The deal contains a "trigger" for a watered down public option. Whooppeee!

[impik]

24. Why wouldn't he? Every progressive in the senate, and Howard Dean, support this bill too

Sorry that facts continue to be in the tank for Obama.

[bdamomma]

27. just a reminider if repigs were in office we would be getting

no health care reform, so I guess we have to suck it up and be glad they are going pass something, but then again Lieberman got his wish.

[Better Believe It]

28. Next up Social Security reform! i.e. cutting benefits and increasing the retirement age

More "reform" we can believe in!

[ipaint]

31. That is most definately next.

The crown jewel of this thirty year heist of the public wealth is social security and medicare. How appropriate that it will be the democrats to finish the job reagan started.

[jenmito]

32. He would've endorsed one WITH a public option, too...

but this is what they're able to get done with the makeup of this Senate. Rep. Weiner endorsed it, too. Is HE a "Corporatist" too?

[vaberella]

33. I'm not happy about it. Some on this board prefer this version & I do support expanding medicare.

Overall this bill does have a lot. A lot of people are backing the Senate compromise a lot. As mentioned in the first post and considering that I care about health care reform, I do think this is a good plan. Of course we await from CBO, but whatever.

[phleshdef]

35. Now Sanders has endorsed it. Sanders, Dean, Weiner, Krugman and Obama... CORPORATISTS!

LOL.

[jenmito]

36. Kickin' this post! Funny how people keep ignoring the facts!

:hi: