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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:38 PM
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Lotsa Polls! Good for Dems!!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 02:00 PM by FrenchieCat
Democrats favored by +21 points over Republicans! :bounce:

Pres. Obama at a 62% approval rating! :woohoo:

Chances of Republicans regaining either house? Nil! :thumbsup:
polled were 1,500 respondents....

Instead of calling landlines at 3:00 p.m. on a Monday afternoon in a certain zip code known
to have a large aging non diverse population,

We called liberal college campuses at 8:00 a.m. on a Tuesday morning on their cell phones.

Just saying....many of these polls that many are swearing by are designed to drive the narrative
as to whom will win, by repeating the big lie over and over again until it becomes the truth.

Some might think that I am exaggerating, but why then does the Corporate media tend to
highlight the polls that are the worse for Democrats and the best for Republicans?
Why when the WSJ poll states Obama's approval number as at 50%, the poll that gets quoted
by even MSNBC is the older one from another polling outfit not named that had him at 42%? :shrug:

If you can answer that question, then you can also learn that Polls, like the news media,
are not your friends......in fact, I'm starting to believe that like the media,
they don't give a fuck of how many of us end up getting screwed, as long as those driving the
narrative have good incomes to rely on.

I think we should start focusing our energy on these polling outfits,
because they are going to poll you right out of your and my children's future.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:43 PM
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1. As usual FC, a great post,, uplifting in these dubious times....n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:45 PM
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7. And we sure need a lift!
and it ain't easy when folks have got their big toe on the scale.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:47 PM
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2. K&R. Great points! n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:55 PM
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3. I'm confused did you do the cell-phone poll yourself or is there a missing link?
and where is the "lotsa polls" listed in the title?

:shrug:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:59 PM
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4. The Gullibility that polling outfits rely on to confuse is the missing link.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:07 PM
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5. Ok I get you now, but if I may...
Do you think people vote based on polls?
Or do you think they provide necessary evidence to scuttle election fraud investigations?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:17 PM
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6. I think it is both....
But certainly, many people vote based on polls, as they like to believe
they are part of the majority.....and honestly, folks want to vote for the winner,
as that is the American way! :patriot:

and considering the media noise in the background,
which appears to slime Democrats more frequently than Republicans,
that would make an easy choice for those voters, which I fear are way too many
(just like they supported the Iraq War that was openly promoted by the news media).

I also believe that those thinking that they are gonna lose no matter what
helps folks to "not want to vote".

The fact that Obama has experienced a 24/7 pile-on for the last 21 months,
and that Republicans and their Tea Parties have been buyoed instead of
shamed in their ridiculousness for the same time period practically,
tells me that the dark forces at work are guaranteeing that manipulating
the public is quite an easy task, if it is started early and often.

The proposition that Democrats are "catching up" may be more for the sake of
getting those millions in Ad revenues coming from foreign corporations at
the last minute. If the Democrats believe that there is "hope" in some elections
that had been written off, then the Dem candidates and orgs will start buying ad buys,
and so will the other side...which of course ends up in the corporate media coffers.

This new form of corporate democracy is very, very ugly!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:47 PM
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8. Happy to agree with gusto
Polling is poison. Useful only in tiny, well controled and extremely specific situations. I'm sick of the false prophets of profit, declaring that which just started is already decided. Time to dismiss them from the picture.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:00 PM
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9. No, no, NO GOOD NEWS ALLOWED!
Don't tell the corporate media, they don't want to get that memo!

THE POLLS ARE WACK!!! Who are they polling? Don't most people have caller ID that makes them reluntant pick up on somebody they don't konw? Don't most people under 30 use cell phones exclusively and are therefore not polled EVER? Oh but wait I forgot....they're not gonna come out this time. LIKE HELL THEY'RE NOT.

GREAT POST!!
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:04 PM
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10. K/R!
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:09 PM
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11. K&R, Frenchie
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:12 PM
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12. Most polls are designed to shape opinion, not measure it.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:11 PM
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13. Get them kid to put they's voting levers where they's mouth is!
They ain't gotta take polls, they gotta GO polls on 2 November, if not afore
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:15 AM
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14. I agree, Frenchi Cat
I am beginning to suspect the gold standard Quinnapiac (sp?). Their results have been very strange just lately.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:33 AM
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15. The voice of reason strikes again!!!! Well done!!!!!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:39 AM
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16. Except the great majority of those you polled won't vote while
those polled at 3:00 PM at certain zips will most definitely be at the voting booth..
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:01 AM
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17.  I would love to believe this but you provide NO documentation.
But one truth in your statement is that most pollsters do not contact cell phone useres and i pray to God you are correct in your figures. Good news would be refreshing! But again substantiation would be nice and the youth vote is neither signifigant in midterms or reliable.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 03:23 AM
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19. LOL!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 03:59 AM
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20. Stay away from Nate Silver FC
if you don't want to get depressed-he's predicting an apocalypse
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:28 AM
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21. Look FC, you can mock me if you like but the truth of what I state isn't refutable.
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 11:31 AM by saracat
All one has to do is pursue the NCEC data from prior elections.The Polls are irrelevant and becoming more so as the result of cell phones but traditionally the youth vote is NOT reliable, esp. in midterms. And as I canvass and phone bank it is very apparent the Indies and Democrats need a jolt. No one cares more than me about the outcome of this election and I care much more about this than 2012. But the good news is I see more Dem's who are starting to be scared enough to dig deep start "working". But the early ballots have already been received. I honestly hope to God you are correct.We MUST win this. And I am far more worried about state races even more than the Federal, which also scare the hell out of me. And Democrats running to the right and kissing GOP ass has NOT helped, aAnd that message is being sent LOUD and clear.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:02 PM
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18. K&R
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:34 AM
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22. Some polls are trending up - Rassmussen & Gallup
Watch the trend line on Rasmussen and Gallup. Both have seen significant improvements. Rasmussen has Obama at 49% approve today. Gallup has Obama at 47% as of yesterday.

Things are starting to look a bit better to me. Looks like Democrats are coming home, Independents are breaking more evenly, and our voters are more fired up to get out and vote.

Overall, a good week indeed.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:05 PM
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24. The freepers are freaking out about Rasmussen having Obama at 48% yesterday...
I don't see anything there about him being at 49% today! They're going nuts-can't understand how so many people can approve of "that a**hole" Obama. Some are disappointed in Rasmussen himself and questioning his methodology. (R)asmussen! :rofl:
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:25 PM
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26. Yup, another increase in both polls today...
Rasmussen has Obama up to 49%, Gallup has Obama up to 48%.

This is up around 5 points in both polls over the last few weeks.

There is no question that Obama is trending up. Things are looking better and better. These polls tend to fluxuate quite a lot, but the trend is our friend.

I think there are going to be a LOT of disappointed teabaggers come election day. They will win seats, but nothing like what they were thinking - at least if this movement in the polls continues for Obama.

If Obama is sitting at near 50% on election day, we very well may hold both the House and Senate.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:52 AM
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23. Where are you getting this info from?
Please provide links.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:06 PM
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25. KNR! n/t
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