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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:29 PM
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Remember, younger voters use cell phones
and are not usually polled. The trick is to get them to vote. Obama speaking at colleges is exactly the right thing.

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:51 PM
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1. All this old voter has is a cell phone. n/t
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:55 PM
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2. Pollsters adjust for that. This debate came up during 2008
And an aggregate of the pollsters were still pretty accurate in predicting the final vote count.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:38 PM
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5. No, they don't predict final vote counts very well.
Pollsters like to brag when their poll taken a few days before an election is close to the results. At the state and Congressional district level, they are often far off.

But polls taken 2-6 months before an election do not predict election results with any accuracy. National Presidential polls in the Democratic primary had nothing to do with who won the Iowa caucus or who became the nominee. Yet, these polls influence the race.

If polling is limited to the week before an election then they can claim accuracy. Otherwise, it's a pointless and sometimes manipulative game that displaces meaningful coverage of issues.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:01 PM
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6. Some of them do....
most notably Pew, Gallup and The New York Times do. Others, SurveyUSA and Rasmussen Reports dont.

Read this if you haven't already....
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/04/the-uncanny-accuracy-of-polling-averages-part-iv-are-the-polls-getting-worse/#more-1713
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:00 PM
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3. With the decline in the economy, this may be the election where this really does affect enough
people that there is an impact. The people doing the polls do insure that the demographic groups are represented in the correct proportions. However, there is an assumption that the people they can reach are similar to the people that they can't reach within a demographic group. As the proportion that can be reached declines, that assumption both becomes less tenable and it has more impact.

I would guess that with cell phones becoming something that almost everyone has, there are likely many low or moderate income people who might have given up their land lines when they wanted to cut costs by eliminating one or the other.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:14 PM
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4. It really depends on who is doing the polling ...........
more and more polling companies are adding cell phone numbers to their rolls.
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