The Democrats need a desperate gambit

[Onlooker]

If the Democrats don't change the dynamics of this race, they are at a grave risk of losing control of the House and Senate. They need to do something risky. Personally, I think they ought to run against Reagan as a way of reminding people of the risks of Republican economic policies. This would also rile up the least attractive element of the Republican Party -- the older white right would seethe and look even more unattractive, alienating moderates and women.

Reagan inherited a recession that wasn't even as bad as the one Obama inherited. Reagan, like Obama, created a record deficit. But, under Reagan unemployment climbed to 10.8% in the course of 24 months. Under Obama it climbed to 10.1%, before starting to drop in his eleventh month. If the Republicans get what they want, we will see an increase in unemployment and cuts in unemployment insurance that will leave hard-working people without money to spend in their communities. This will result in a recession even more severe than the current one.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Don't Think Small. They Should Run Against Hoover

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[Upton]

2. Run against Reagan?

That was 22-30 years ago. Half the voters out there either weren't alive or were too young to remember him..

[Onlooker]

11. Well the idea is to expose the seething older Republicans

If Reagan is attacked, all these old dirtbags will come out of the wood to spew and seethe in ways that I think will turn off a lot of voters.

[CJCRANE]

3. Just look back to the Bush era. That was bad enough.

No need to talk about the last century.

On edit: Just in general, going after "Saint Ronnie" doesn't seem like a good idea.

[clarence swinney]

16. Run against R control

6 years total 8 of bush
how could any party ever ignore this. How?? Killer Material.
C to B to O Who Fumbled The Ball???
numbers rounded

Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
Bush Left Obama a 3600 Budget

Clinton left Bush a Surplus
Bush left Obama a 1400 Billion Deficit.

Clinton left Bush a 5700B of Debt
Bush left Obama an 11,800B of Debt

Clinton left Bush a 70% increase in Gdp
Bush left Obama a 40% increase in Gdp.

Clinton left Bush a 19.8% of Gdp in Revenues
Bush left Obama a 14,8% of Gdp in Revenues

Clinton left Bush an 18.5% of Gdp in Expenditure
Bush left Obama a 24,7% of Gdp in Expenditure

Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest since Hoover.

Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth
Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars

Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail Out Commitment
Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler

[Overseas]

19. Yes indeed. Before the bipartisan foolishness, the GOP was at 29% popularity.

We don't want the GOP to crash the economy AGAIN !

We don't want the GOP to start another war and bankrupt even more future generations !

[Bluenorthwest]

4. This is not a national election, just a bunch of State elections

So 'they' do not run, individuals run, and 'they' can not lose nor win, individuals do those things. What one candidate in one state needs to do is not the same as for another. Many are in utterly safe seats. Why would such people do something 'risky'?

[wisteria]

7. It is local, but the Republicans have made it a national vote on the Obama administration.

And,our Dem leaders are finding it difficult to run locally on national issues.

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Um. No. The Repubs want to make it about Obama

That does not mean it is so. They do not make the reality. Our 'Dem leaders' are not running. Our candidates are. I do not see what you claim to see at all. Our candidates run on local issues. They are not finding it difficult to do so. Perhaps you could give some real life examples?

[craigmatic]

5. No running against somebody won't work because they need a jobs plan. I think they should run on a

federal jobs training plan that would give financial incentives for companies to hire the unemployed and give them on the job training.

[wisteria]

6. Too much federal involvement and money-that is what the Repubs will say and it will be shot down.

I agree the administration and the party need to come up with a job initiative that they can promote in the next three weeks. I think they should also ask for a little more time to turn things around, pointing out how much things have really improved and how things ARE going to get better soon-a positive message and a plan. We have to give people a good reason to stick with us. The repubs are out there spreading doom and gloom and talking up the worst all the while they have NO plans to make things better. Actually, they aren't promising anything tangible and yet, people are buying into electing them simply because things aren't great yet. We are on the right course, to give Repubs power will reverse a lot of the good accomplished by the Democrats.

[emulatorloo]

8. Yes, They've put up several jobs bills and anti-outsourcing bills that Repubs have killed.

They need to high light those for example and how the Republicans fillibustered and killed them, and promote what was in them

[emulatorloo]

10. How about Boehner and the Senate Republican instead

Their behavior the last couple years has been despicable. Every pro-jobs anti-outsourcing bill has been killed by that crowd.

[clarence swinney]

12. Democrats are DUMB not to nuke with this

Clinton years were greatest. Bush years were Hell on earth.
Democrats will not attack just play soft defense
Few outspoken speakers Howard Dean is great just not mean enough

Overlook this nuke is defeat


to B to O Who Fumbled The Ball???
numbers rounded

Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
Bush Left Obama a 3600 Budget

Clinton left Bush a Surplus
Bush left Obama a 1400 Billion Deficit.

Clinton left Bush a 5700B of Debt
Bush left Obama an 11,800B of Debt

Clinton left Bush a 70% increase in Gdp
Bush left Obama a 40% increase in Gdp.

Clinton left Bush a 19.8% of Gdp in Revenues
Bush left Obama a 14,8% of Gdp in Revenues

Clinton left Bush an 18.5% of Gdp in Expenditure
Bush left Obama a 24,7% of Gdp in Expenditure

Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest since Hoover.

Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth
Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars

Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail Out Commitment
Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
olduglymeanhonest mad mad mad

[rbilancia]

13. Nope. Most people think of Reagan as the folksy hero who brought prosperity. ATTACK TODAY'S RADICALS

instead. We have TONS of ammo to use against the RePUKES. They are TeaPUKE radicals who who want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare and go back to the Bush days. ATTACK them on THOSE loudly, clearly, and constantly. That is what we need to be doing do EVERYWHERE.

[clarence swinney]

15. Reagan biggest Spend-Borrow

He does not have one great number. not one
Increased Spend and Borrow by peacetime records.
80% and 170%
Took 1000B of Debt to 2700B--after 200 years.
Stock market increase only good number

Clinton numbers make RR look like amateur
google clarence swinney + clinton vs reagan

Conservatives got us Great Depression(same ideology got Great Recession)
and wandered in the wilderness for 50 years
Reagan was their Moses.
They went nuts when clinton won.
Back in power with bushaloon.

Raped The Middle Class for WSA.
2008--1% owned 43% Financial wealth
80% or 120,00,000 workers owned 7%
2001-2009 top 1% took 67% of total income growth

Middle Class is in bad trouble.No easy fix.

Imagine America in last few years
No Social Security
No Medicare
No Medicaid
No Food Stamps
No Unemployment Insurance
No Child Care programs
No Student Loans
No Affordable Housing for Elderly

Les Miserables Revolting

It may happen-- Poor and Low income in deep deep trouble
Crime will shoot up.
Divorce up.
Bankruptcy up
Unemploy up on low pay jobs

[rbilancia]

23. Don't waste time on Reagan. He's long dead and gone. Attack the TeaRadicalRePUKES.

[clarence swinney]

14. Democrats are weak

Play wimpish defense.
Reagan did not inherit a recession it was 1981 and 1982.
Paul Volcker created. Reagan ok'd.

Cut Government. Wow! Opening for KO.

1980--600B Budget
Reagan increased by 80% plus debt by 170% both peacetime records
Bush got 1800B Budget and increased by 100% and Debt by 100%

Three Conservative presidents since 1980 increased debt by 9000B
Increased Spending from 600B to 3600B (less wjc itsy bitsy)

JOBS--Three got 99,000 net per month
Carter-Clinton got 222,000

Three got us involved in 8 international conflicts with millions killed.

Scandals--Haynes Johnson of WP in book Sleepwalking wrote--"Reagan had the most scurrilous administration in history"
Reagan had 137 investigated. More than total since 1900
Many convicted details at google clarence swinney + Reagan scandals.

Great Recession--Two Dumb Wars---Increased Spending and Debt by record
numbers.
935 Lies on WMD to get us into illegal invasion of two of most destitute and
unarmed on earth. Look at what the World viewed. Barbarian. Bully.

Washington Democrats make me sick. No War Room. Non nuke attack.
Pussy foot about Wimp.

When you are in a War you kill the enemy.

You use nuke materials not bb guns.

so disgusting

olduglymeanhonest mad mad mad

[Parker CA]

17. The current GOP "base" is so far to the right of Reagan, that strategy wouldn't work. Getting out

the vote is our best weapon in defeating these fuggers.

[elleng]

18. Dems need MONEY, no more gambit, imo. TruthOut will set us free.

[kentuck]

20. I know! I know!!

They could call Congress back into session and pass the middle-class tax cuts. :-)

[zulchzulu]

21. No need for desperation. Just remind people of the truth about how we got here n/t

[kentuck]

22. What a concept !

:-)

[JamesA1102]

24. No because the MSM will call it desperate. nt

[LWolf]

25. The Democratic President would have to act less like Reagan,

and more like a Democrat, for that to work.

[Ramulux]

26. No they dont

What they need is a massive coordinated media campaign aimed at making as many people aware of the dangers of a republican takeover, coupled with a huge GOTV effort. They seem to be doing both fairly well at the time and they simply need to ramp up their efforts in the coming weeks.