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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 07:51 PM
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"The party hopes to declare victory by losing less than expected."
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 08:29 PM by Pirate Smile
The party hopes to declare victory by losing less than expected.

How many balloons do you order for a party celebrating nearly 40 House Democratic losses? Are confetti cannons an appropriate response to retaining the House majority by a slender margin of one, two, or three seats?
This bizarre conversation has taken on a somewhat comic urgency among party strategists closest to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Chris Van Hollen, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Why? Because House Democrats are increasingly confident that they are going to beat back the Republican onslaught and keep control of the chamber -- even as they suffer massive losses across the country.

This is what passes for optimism in Democratic circles. And the hopeful outcome is a possibility because just enough Democrats warned the rank and file more than 18 months ago that these midterms promised to be a disaster for the party.
On February 5, 2009, mere hours before President Obama was to speak to a euphoric House Democratic Caucus, Van Hollen declared that 70 to 80 House Democrats would be vulnerable and that the party could lose dozens of seats in 2010
(something he resisted saying in public well into this year). Stan Greenberg, a pollster for the DCCC, told the members to look closely at the lawmakers sitting around them because many wouldn't be back in 2011. This political shock therapy came when Obama's approval rating was near 70 percent and the Democrats, according to Greenberg's polling, were ahead of the GOP by 34 points on health care and 25 points on the economy. "I said, 'We are basking in the afterglow, but beware,' " Van Hollen recalled.

Democrats were told to start raising money immediately and to prepare for a Republican rebound -- even though that seemed virtually impossible at the time. Van Hollen didn't like what he saw -- not the polls but the district-by-district vulnerabilities that came with victories in 54 swing districts in 2006 and 2008. In 2010, House Democrats would be defending seats in 48 districts carried by John McCain in 2008 and 83 won by President Bush in 2004.
In 1994, Van Hollen told the caucus, the entire party fell asleep, but "that won't be the case this time."


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Van Hollen also set up an office in the Longworth House Office Building and staffed it with hand-picked party operatives who provided advice on communications, legislative strategy, and constituent services to all 41 Frontline members. The key was to give relatively unknown lawmakers a chance to shine back home.
"There has always been a saying that young members should be seen and not heard," Van Hollen noted. "That was turned around."
Rep. Gary Peters, a freshman from Michigan's 9th District, was given an outsized role in dealing with the government's efforts to rescue General Motors and Chrysler and with the "cash for clunkers" program. Before the House adjourned, it acted on new NASA policy that gave Rep. Suzanne Kosmas, of Florida's 24th District, high visibility on a key Space Coast jobs issue. Both the Peters and Kosmas races remain competitive -- in large part, Democrats argue, because the freshmen have been able to localize their races.

At the same time, party leaders were focusing on more than two dozen Democrats with substantial seniority who had not run modern races in tough political climates for years. Ike Skelton of Missouri, Rick Boucher of Virginia, and Earl Pomeroy of North Dakota were among those summoned to private meetings and put on notice.
Skelton, for one, snapped into action, hiring a campaign manager in early 2009 and holding 13 D.C. fund-raisers by year's end. He had collected $1,941,184 through June and boasted a cash-on-hand advantage of $1.3 million versus $247,000 for his GOP challenger, Vicky Hartzler. Van Hollen is more buoyant than he has been in months, but he's also not thinking about confetti cannons just yet.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20101009_4400.php


I'll take it!

Democrats retaining control of the House and Senate would be a HUGE upset and an Epic Fail by Republicans.

Let's work our asses off and have that confetti cannon ready!



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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 07:57 PM
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1. In a midterm that IS a victory. nt
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 08:08 PM
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4. Not if you don't know your history. I see it as the Democrats are still the majority. Win!
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 08:18 PM
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5. Yep that be true as mid terms always means low voter turn out which helps R's not D's.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:52 AM
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18. Battle of the bulge ...
Fight back the loses, hold both chambers, even by slim margins if it comes to that, then come back firing for with the incumbant POTUS on the ballot in 2012 ...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 07:57 PM
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2. obama's wars - declare victory and come home lol nt
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 08:07 PM
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3. That's my rep! nt
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 08:48 PM
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6. for months the pundits have been saying the house is lost and increasingly the senate--if
the dems keep control of both, yes, that is a victory of sorts. Nobody is expecting that they would have picked up seats in a midterm--historically that doesn't happen, except in extraordinary circumstances.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 09:28 PM
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7. Plouffe has been saying that unless the GOP wins BIG, then they haven't won at all...
... and that scares the crap out of me. Sounds like he's already spinning a loss of the House.

:shutter:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:11 PM
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12. I don't read it that way. I see it as the Republicans being hyped up and elevated so much
this election cycle by the media, that if they do not win big they are going to be viewed as real big time losers for a long time. The hype won't be there in 2012 for them.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:51 AM
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17. IMO ...
I don't get that ... I think he is selling what he is selling ... Rs make huge gains, win both houses and a wide margin of governorships or it is a disappointment for them ...

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:23 PM
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8. Oh that is such a great picture of the Obama family. Must be old...the girls were tiny.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:27 PM
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9. That was when he won his Senate seat in 04' and the little girl making confetti angels on the ground
was at a Hillary rally.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:53 PM
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10. It is gorgeous. Thanks for the details.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:06 PM
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11. I'll take it too! I entend to encourage all Democrats I know to go out and vote.
lets fight for a victory-no matter how small.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:31 PM
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13. If we keep the House, not only is a HUGE victory...
But it's a complete disaster for the Republicans.
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 12:29 AM
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14. It actually is a victory given the effect of citizens united, a near miracle.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 05:56 AM
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15. Yes, retaining control in both houses an off year election is certainly a victory.
Imagine the Republicans taking control of the House and having subpoena power and everything else. No thank you.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:20 AM
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16. Considering the situation, anything less than a wipeout would be a victory.
I for one will be celebating wildly if we keep control of both chambers... even if by one vote.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 07:37 AM
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19. OTOH, the GOP will still declare victory even if they win much less than previously expected.
Hell, GWB claimed he had a mandate with 51%.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:30 AM
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20. 51% is a majority. The Republicans can't claim victory without winning
No matter how many seats they get.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:04 AM
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21. Of course they will, but they, the media and everyone would see it as a defeat
Failing to take the House in these conditions would raise the question of whether the GOP could ever retake Congress.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:07 AM
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22. No matter what happens, the GOP will declare victory
even if they lose
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