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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:50 PM
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**LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!! Reid v. Angle in their only debate, live 9pm EDT **
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 07:52 PM by Clio the Leo
http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

Two quiet old people enter .... only one quiet old person leaves (they actually both leave, but one hides from the press, so you wont see her leaving)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:52 PM
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1. Do you know if it will be on c-span, or streaming? And howzabout
cnn? Any idea?
Thanks for the heads-up!

:hi:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:53 PM
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2. Yeah it will be on CSPAN tv....
... am looking for a CNN link also.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:00 PM
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5. Gracias! nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:53 PM
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3. I can hardly wait! I really really really want Harry to do well and push right back. nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:58 PM
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4. Hope Sharon has spent time determining what Supreme Court decisions she doesn't like...
.... I say we keep asking the crazy teabaggers until they can actually name one.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:06 PM
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Seriously. I don't get why they can't answer such a basic question.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:02 PM
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6. I have that little box CSPAN puts the feed in. nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:03 PM
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7. Oh! Harry's mom was the brothel laundress!
That was a trivia question this morning! lol
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:06 PM
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8. She comes out swinging!
She can put more than three words together. :wow:


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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:08 PM
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10. Not without a 15 second pause between every three words...
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:07 PM
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9. Debate between two inarticulate people. I guess the winner will be who is the least inarticulate.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:11 PM
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15. No kidding; he was putting me to sleep, to boot. nt
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:08 PM
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11. She just called Harry "nuts".
lol
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:09 PM
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12. I have to admit that Sharron is tough. Harry is too soft spoken, not answering the question!
I don't know Harry. You better start fighting NOW!!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:10 PM
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14. She sounds confident, Harry sounds timid - but he's always sounded like that. It's too bad. nt
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:13 PM
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17. He has the audacity to criticize Obama for "not fighting back"!
He has been the weakest, most timid, most milquetoast Democrat in Congress.

With all that said, I don't want this crazy bitch in the Senate. (And yes, I am a woman.)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:16 PM
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18. I've often asked WHY he was chosen Speaker, but never got a definitive answer,
just opinions. Of course, I guess that's all we have, come to think of it.

And trust me, I went to 12 years of Catholic Girls' Schools so 'bitch' is tame. Didn't even notice. :7
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:41 PM
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49. She's not tough, she's stark raving mad.....
.... the fact that Harry is not better is not helping .... but I bet there are a BUNCH of GOP'ers right now wishing O'Donnell lived in NV.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:54 PM
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64. Yes. But because she projects her voice and he doesn't, that works for people.
It doesn't matter that she's wrong. She's projecting her voice and sounding much more confident. I can totally see people nodding their heads in response. So very sad...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:10 PM
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13. That background is disturbing.
Green? What is this? Italy? Iran?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:11 PM
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16. I think they were supposed to put a scenic shot of Nevada on that green screen.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:37 PM
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42. like looking out a window...
.... that makes sense.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:51 PM
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60. It's an invitation for another Colbert "Green Screen Challenge."
:rofl:
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:18 PM
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19. "The choice is between... the free market... and Americanism. American is
choices!" What the FUCK is she prattling on about?!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:19 PM
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21. lol ......... exactly ..... huh? whu? ........ wha?
AMERICANISMS!!!! F YEAH!!!!
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:20 PM
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25. Heard that.
Jaw dropping stupidity.


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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:22 PM
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77. Freudian slip: choice between Free Market and America
In other words, we can have our "free" market (which is NOT free), OR America, but not both. We know which one she wants.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:18 PM
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20. Reid said English is the official language of the U.S. Is that true?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:19 PM
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23. shhh ..... we're ignoring that part ..... keep moving along. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:26 PM
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29. Sorry, but...
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 08:27 PM by jenmito
he's wrong: "Many people are surprised to learn that the United States has no official language. As one of the major centers of commerce and trade, and a major English-speaking country, many assume that English is the country's official language. But despite efforts over the years, the United States has no official language."

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_lang.html (I'll keep it between us.) ;)

Did he really not know that? And why did he keep repeating that the Hyde Amendment still stands? Nobody knows what that is.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:28 PM
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31. He was trying to evade a question about a Constitutional amendment.
Same thing for the Hyde Amendment.

Reid is trying to avoid the hard questions.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:41 PM
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48. Yeah, but that probably won't go over well to those who wanted to hear a clear answer. n/t
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:45 PM
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53. No question about that. Reid needs to hit harder and be more straight.\nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:47 PM
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56. Yeah. He's weak, quiet, talks too slowly, and sounds unsure. n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:29 PM
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34. You're absolutely right!! n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:36 PM
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39. I think if he had expounded on what he said...
.... he would have said it was the de facto official language. That it is the unofficial official language ... why he said that was bizarre, but I dont think he REALLY thinks that.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:44 PM
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52. Yeah, but it will probably be fact-checked
and shown that he was wrong.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:19 PM
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22. Angle: "We have a choice between the free market and Americanism"! WHAT?!?!?!?
:crazy::crazy:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:19 PM
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24. fyi, rudepundit live tweeting...
http://twitter.com/rudepundit

Clio, aren't you proud of me? I posted a tweet link! :D
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:20 PM
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26. Democrats can't GIVE yes or no answers. Not everything is black and white, you stupid mother
fuckers. Ok, no more cursing tonight. I think I've worked it all out. ;)
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:21 PM
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27. WTF. Does every question have to be based on RW memes?
:argh:

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:22 PM
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28. She sounds no better than Alvin Greene. This is fucking crazy. nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:30 PM
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35. But even Alvin has these random moments of clairlty, like...
... upon leaving the court house to face those porn charges (or whatever) the only thing he'd say to the cameras was "My opponent started the recession!" ..... you notice any other Dems saying that? lol
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:38 PM
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44. She's a goddamn lunatic.... And yes I found Greene's argument on DeMint very
compelling.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:27 PM
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30. Anyone get the impression the moderator HATES Angle?
"that would be NO!"
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:28 PM
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32. The moderator is good.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:29 PM
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33. Of COURSE she admires Clarence Thomas. Of COURSE. Fucking dummy.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:30 PM
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36. Harry: It's "Bush v. Gore," not "Gore v. Bush"
This moderator, Mitch, is fantastic!!!
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:34 PM
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37. "MAN UP, HARRY REID"!!!! n/t
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Cleanelec Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:35 PM
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38. "man up, Harry"
She's literally beating up on him, and he's taking it meekly.
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:36 PM
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40. Yeah, If Harry...........
Does not knock her to the mat on the "Man Up" statement, this will be the main soundbite from the entire debate.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:37 PM
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41. If publicly financed health care is good enough for Harry Reid
it is good enough for the rest of us.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:38 PM
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43. If Harry doesn't start hitting back at this fucking witch soon, he deserves to lose! n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:39 PM
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45. Be funny if she just started randomly quoting debate lines...
"You sir are no Jack Kennedy!"

"Mind if I call ya Joe?"

"that one!"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:51 PM
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61. LOL! Stand by; she might! nt
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:40 PM
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46. A Teabagger flaunting science?! Now I've seen it all.
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Cleanelec Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:40 PM
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47. Harry's getting mugged
He showed up ready for tea and crumpets, she showed up ready for a bar room brawl.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:43 PM
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51. Well, that's easy when you're pulling facts and numbers DIRECTLY out of your ass.
It's got to be a little off-putting to have to deny such utter bullshit spewing from her noise-hole. But yes, he needs to hit harder, that's for sure...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:46 PM
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54. It's hard when you have to stick to the facts and your opponent is flat-out fucking lying.
Reid's still a terrible debater and should not be Majority Leader anymore, though.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:42 PM
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50. She was a teacher for 25 years? That are a lot of generations that have been polluted.\nt
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:46 PM
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55. Yeah, Harry! Stop dismoralizing our troops!!!
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:48 PM
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57. So... she offered him NOTHING MORE than she does to any other citizen, and THAT'S why
he dropped out? Yeah, sounds reasonable (lying moron).
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:49 PM
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58. "Obamacare offers NO choices."!!! That's when you stop her and yell out
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 08:50 PM by Grown2Hate
"YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR!!!". Seriously.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:50 PM
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59. Did she just endorse universal healthcare????!!!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:52 PM
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62. Reid "I'm not in favor of giving tax cuts to billionaires..."
notice that's BILLIONAIRES and not MILLIONAIRES.

Brave move their Harry. ;)

EGADS!!!! Why is this argument so hard.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:53 PM
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63. She accuses him to be corrupt and he barely shows any emotion?
I think Nevada is lost.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:58 PM
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66. Are you kidding? I've never seen him so angry. If he raised his voice another decibel. Dogs
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 08:59 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
might actually be able to hear him.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:01 PM
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67. Yeah, you have to listen for subtle shifts in timber to notice when Harry is upset. I actually
kinda like the guy, but he's soft-spoken as all hell and about as passionate as a pillow.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:56 PM
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65. No you smile so much because the clown in your head gives you the funnies. nt
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 08:56 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:06 PM
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68. Of course, Chucky Todd rams Harry Reid!!! Asshole!! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:28 PM
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69. I hate to say it, but I think Chuck Todd was right with these tweets:
"Reid's problem tonight is that while Angle wasn't great, his performance made her look passable."

"Big diff is Angle has explosive talking points to repeat like "Obamacare." Did Reid prepare at all? No visible game plan"
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:37 PM
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70. I agree. He was right on these points. I guess I'm just sad and depressed
about where I see this country going...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:40 PM
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73. Me, too, BUT...
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 09:40 PM by jenmito
Rachel Maddow just showed clips from the debate which made her look bad and Reid look good! Rachel seemed happy with it. And Lawrence O'Donnell is continuing with this. I'm starting to feel a little better.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:39 PM
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72. She looked passable? To whom? He has been repeating this idea all day.
He is just trying to make his prediction come true.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:43 PM
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74. To those who set the bar on the floor, I guess.
Reid didn't give a very strong performance at first viewing. I'm seeing clips now that are changing my mind, though.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:38 PM
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71. Chuck Todd seems to be after a story that has Republicans winning.
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 10:14 PM by wisteria
And, now he is trying to make it happen.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:47 PM
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75. Great news from Mark Halperin-who is different from Mark Haperin who is the Bob Dole speechwriter

Angle Straight at Reid
Silver State Republican challenger goes after Leader Reid in debate in Las Vegas Thursday.

Hits on taxes, spending, immigration, ObamaCare.

Reid calls her "extreme."

Debate's focus is on Obama-Reid record, taxes, ObamaCare.

Reid: Intense and determined.

Angle: Relentless and smiley.

No big news or errors.

In other words: Not a game changer.



Read more: http://thepage.time.com/#ixzz12OM7TTEX

Wow awesome. Reading DU, Angle crushed Reid tonight and it was game over for him. Senator-Elect Angle.

Halperin disagrees.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:32 PM
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78. There was a similar situation after the third debate between Obama and McCain here on DU.
I remember it very well. DU pretty much painted this picture that McCain walked all over Obama. McCain was pushy. McCain was determined to tie Obama to Ayers - but it didn't work.

When the dust settled, the media agreed it wasn't a game changer. The flash polls after the debate suggested Obama had won by a large margin.

Sometimes we build up expectations in our head for our guys that we can't really look at it from a typical voter's POV.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:37 PM
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79. Wow...really? I saw all of Obama's debates (all of all the candidates' debates, actually).
I thought Obama clearly won over McCain at every debate, hands down. Not that McCain didn't make some points. I don't recall even thinking they were close or that it was tied. I usually read DU later, but I don't remember there being a strong difference of opinion with my perception. But then my memory ain't what it used to be. (Who's McCain?)
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:41 PM
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80. It was not really after the debate, but during the debate...
In the debate thread.

A lot of people saying Obama was too soft when McCain would hit him with Ayers and other fluff.

Let me see if I can find the thread. Maybe I'm remembering wrong! But I'll look.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:05 PM
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76. In my opinion
after watching this. Reid has got to bet on the people in the state that know him and believe him to win it for him. Because its hard to debate a dumbass like this that just spouts off talking points.
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