Chris Hayes made a great point. If Barack Obama is in the pocket of corporations, why are

[Pryderi]

corporations funneling 100s of millions of dollars to Repugnicans?

[3waygeek]

1. Because while Obama may be in their pocket...

the Repubs are up their ass.

[ClarkUSA]

3. What does that mean, exactly?

[KoKo]

14. You know....I had to think about what you said..and the implications of it...

I'll have to think further...

[awoke_in_2003]

24. so the republicans...

are fucking corporations? I think i need another drink to have that make sense.

[Arkana]

31. No, sorry--you can't have it both ways.

Either Obama is a corporate stooge like every left-wing blog says, or he's not. Pick one.

[jaxx]

2. Cause he hasn't done them any favors....

unlike what we've been told by the naysayers.

[awoke_in_2003]

25. unless you are in...

the insurance industry.

[Billy Burnett]

36. and the war industry. eom

[awoke_in_2003]

45. yep, it kills me...

when Bush had his surge, we all cried out against it. But the dems had to prove they are manly and have their own surge and we cheered.

[Autumn]

4. The corporations already got what they wanted

out of the Democrats ,you know what used to be called a one night stand, now they will go back to their main squeeze.

[KoKo]

15. That does seem to be the Truth of It...but then they turned and Zapped the Hand that Saved Them...

and having no remorse they then went to the "other side" to finish the DEAL.

Amazing........

[awoke_in_2003]

26. also known as...

"friend with benefits"

[Uben]

5. If they were in his pocket....

....why would they be sitting on a trillion dollars in cash reserves? Duh!

Think!

[phleshdef]

6. Think of how many changes he has passed that effect corporations and are things they were against.

I can see some merit in the argument that Obama probably should have been even harder on some of these industries than he has been, that doesn't change the fact that he is the first President in a really long time to be on their ass as much as he has.

[readmoreoften]

7. Because he promises the moon and they promise the moon and stars.

When he tries to promise them the moon and stars and the base complain, the locksteps yell "President Pali, and then the base accepts the offer of the moon and stars. Then the Republicans throw in the sun, and Obama tries to thrown in the sun, but the base complains, rinse repeat.

If it wasn't for the progressives, they'd be able to take the universe in one fell swoop. But with Obama, they have to wait until he cajoles us into submission.

[KoKo]

16. Beautifully put.......would hope it isn't true...but it's not looking good for those

who would deny what keeps coming out. How long can we just say: "It's all RW or Firedoglake.......

There has to be some kernels of truth in the weeds.

It gets overwhelming.

[obxhead]

8. For the same reason they are funneling 100's of millions of dollars into

Dem coffers as well.

Buy them all, then we are guaranteed a win!

[Exilednight]

9. Exactly, and if some Dems win that they didn't expect to win they will ............

give them money after the election to pay off their debt, but before the start of the new session of Congress. This is how Bill Clinton retired the debt for his first run for presidency.

[ProSense]

10. Look at the difference

Barbara Boxer:
Independent expenditures in support: $107,716.21
Independent expenditures in opposition: $405,275.20
Electioneering communications: $3,245,203.00 *

Carly Fiorina:
Independent expenditures in support: $553,823.54
Independent expenditures in opposition: $123,441.47

U.S. Chamber about to drop another $1.25 million in TV ads against Barbara Boxer?

[obxhead]

33. Self delete

I didn't see who I was replying to first.

[flamingdem]

51. On CNN Crowley just had Axelrod then 3 guests who said this trend is no big deal, liars all nt

[Hekate]

27. Links? Sources? Facts argue otherwise.

[obxhead]

32. You honestly want me to get you links?

You really think that Dems run solely on donations from citizens only? That they don't take enormous campaign contributions from corporations?

If you believe that for one minute now, no link or fact will change your severely misguided thinking.

[impik]

11. He is NOT in their pocket. The professional left can lie about it all they want

Wall Street HATES Obama.

[BzaDem]

12. +1 for common sense.

[mkultra]

13. +1

[KoKo]

17. They really don't. Do you read any financial websites?

They got what they wanted but as the poster above said....THEY WANT MORE! They will NOT REST until they've GROUND THE AVERAGE AMERICAN UNDER THEIR BOOTS...indebted forever and low-waged and outsourced, forever.

They don't care about us...or Obama or anything but getting GOVERNMENT OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS! They loved Obama's continuing Bush II's BAILOUTS. They LOVE that Obama's Attorney General CANNOT PROSECUTE their CRIMINALITY.

THEY FOLLOW THE MONEY and THE POLITICS...WHEN THEY ARE'nt DRIVING IT!

[Pirate Smile]

18. Are you serious? They despise him. They trash him in ways I've never seen happen to other

Presidents.

If we manage to hold the House and Senate, the next day I'll have to check out CNBC because they will be absolutely hysterical.

[Hekate]

28. +1

[obxhead]

34. Big pharma and big insurance love Obama. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

42. LMAO!!!

[HughMoran]

19. Just another idiot meme used to attack Obama from the left

Clearly it makes no sense, but that won't stop folks from spewing this crap ad infinitum.

[EFerrari]

20. Because they spread their risk. n/t

[hulka38]

21. They want to go with a winner.

Only a political novice or someone feigning cluelessness would ask this question.

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[Hekate]

29. Pass it over to me

and share the herbal goodness. :smoke:

Hekate

[boppers]

23. The "anti-corporatists" would complain about Che's beret being made in *gasp* a factory!

There are folks you could give a brick of solid gold to.... and they would complain about the weight.

[Hekate]

30. LOL

:evilgrin:

[Recursion]

38. It still kills me that shirts with Che's image are made in sweatshops

for bourgeois teenagers to wear.

I made a cafe press shirt with Pol Pot once. The point was lost because apparently 99% of Americans have no idea who he was.

[Enrique]

35. Obama's not up for election n/t

[Bullet1987]

37. Because corporations fund both sides...obviously

[Radical Activist]

39. Thirty years of gradual deregulation is being reversed.

They see it even if the Verruca Salt caucus doesn't.

[DFLforever]

49. +1

The truest explanation.

[PurityOfEssence]

40. Because they want EVEN MORE

Sure, he's better than the monarchists who control the Republican Party, but that's not our only choice. It's not an all or nothing world, and he can be pressured. He should be. The idea that he's the best we can get is absurd; he can be worked on to be less of an enabler. The REAL problem is that many of us feel that he's not really of a mind to; whether misguided or whatever, what he'd do in a perfect world is a very open question.

We have been constantly hammered and guilted into giving him the benefit of the doubt, and his actions before his primary campaign and his actions since simply don't sustain the image of him being anything more than an ultramoderate and corporate fellow-traveler. Presumably, if this observation is correct, it's from a belief--that many of us don't share--that the kind of corporate aristocracy we have in this country is somehow necessary.

The corporate powers are thrilled to have someone who's not a leftist threat who can be painted as such so they can drag the country even farther to the right.

[glitch]

43. Too complex, requires strategic thinking. Neither black nor white, will not connect.

I wish it weren't so, yours was a good answer.

[Milo_Bloom]

41. Because they can make a good thing better.

[TheKentuckian]

44. You have a weak grasp of unmitigated greed and vanity

They hate him because he dares to use a little rhetoric that wags the finger at them and would maybe raise their personal taxes a smidgen.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

46. Because Obama isn't up for reelection this year, but a lot of anti-corporate

Congresscritters and Senators are.

[Umbral]

47. Because it doesn't matter how much they have, they always want more. nt

[quakerboy]

48. not that great a point

If you have two employees, and you can pay one $8.50 an hour, and then get a 10% kickback under the table cause he's undocumented and has no options, or the other you can pay $0.15 an hour, which would your average corporate structure choose?

Either one is preferred to a Union job with benefits. But one is still preferable to the other.

[old mark]

50. He's not really in their pocket - the corporations already own much of our government

and he is working withing the limits set by them through the 'publican party. We need to take them down further than they already are - another GOP administration in the next few years will be a disaster for the US.

mark