If Democrats weren't afraid to make the case for big government,

[Onlooker]

they would not be in such bad shape.

After all, what are Republicans against? interstate highways? clean water? safe drugs? currency protection? a reasonably trustworthy economic system? 40 hour work weeks? child labor laws? safe airways? reliable telecommunications? safe products? firefighters? police officers? teachers? benefits for veterans? programs that protect children? education? troops? military equipment? military bases? courts? prisons? schools? sewers? safe food? protection against toxic waste? Social Security? Medicaid/Medicare? playgrounds? public pools? parks? trash collection? museums? libraries? street lights? bridges? tunnels? airports? safe work places? minimum wage? building construction codes? mass transit? child protection services? licensing? animal control? disaster relief? snow removal from public places? recycling? property rights? voter registration? disease control? the National Guard? record keeping?

The fact is that big government works, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. If the Democrats would start to point that out, then they wouldn't be defending their record, they'd be promoting it. It's hard to think of any big government initiative that the American people actually turned against. They like all this country has to offer.

[bluethruandthru]

1. So true!

Whenever I hear the "I hate big government" crap coming out of some right wingers mouth, I ask them what exactly do they hate about it...specifically. I've never had a sensible response.

[clarence swinney]

2. WHOSE BIG GOVERNMENT?

Reply to Conservative Bob Livingston on Big Government
 
C LARENCE SWINNEY says:
October 15, 2010 at 11:15 am
Sorry Bob Your creation ?”Big Government” by Reagan + Bush
is not our imminent threat to Democracy.
It Is Your creation of WSA–Wall Street Of America–
Your pals created the Great Redistribution of Income and Wealth to 1% or 1.2 million ultra rich. Yes Bob! You. You. You.
Let 1% go from 20% ownership of Total Financial Wealth in 1980 to 43% in 2009.
From Ten percent of Total Income to 24% in 2009
Yes Bob, You created a Third World called Wall Street Of America formerly United States Of America.
You Bob increased spending by 80% and Debt by 170% from 1980 to 1989.
Yes! You Bob increased spending and debt each by 100% from 2000-2009
Yes! You Bob created our current Big Government. You.
Yes! You created 99,000 net new jobs in 20 years just enough to cover new entries into the work force.
Yes! It was not Clinton or Carter who in 12 years created 222,000 per month.
Yes! It was you who freed banks where large investment Gamblers could own all our bank assets for their Gambling Empire.
Yes! It was you who modernized financial empire to allow unrestricted Gambling in your new CASINO DERIVATIVE OF AMERICA
Yes! It was you Bob who in eight years in the Bush created 31,000 new jobs per month lowest since Hoover.
Yes! It was you Bob who allowed the ultra rich to rush into the Casino Derivative and leave investments  in stocks which built businesses, assets, and jobs. You Bob.
Yes! You knew Bob that Casino Derivative had no assets. You knew.
Yes! You knew Bob that Casino Derivative adds no value to our economy. You knew.
Why Bob why did you push down Middle Class 120,000,000 workers who from 1980 gained nothing.
That Bob is knows as creating a Third World Population. Yes Bob you you you did it.
prove me wrong with numbers and facts not rhetoric .
clarence swinney--olduglymeanhonest mad mad mad--political historian-lifeaholics of america-burlington nc
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[clarence swinney]

3. Big Government

1980 Carter had 600B Budget, 218,000 per month job creation. peace on earth and less than 1000B Of Debt
with 10 Billioniares
8 years later after Brain Dead Affable Dunce
we had 1140B of Budget--175,000 new jobs per month-involvement in 5 international conflicts-
2700B of Debt with 51 Billionaires. Thanks 60% Tax Cut.

THEN HERE COMES BUSH(numbers rounded)

CLINTON LEFT BUSH AN 1800B BUDGET
BUSH LEFT OBAMA A 3600B BUDGET

CLINTON LEFT BUSH A SURPLUS
BUSH LEFT OBAMA A 1400B DEFICIT.

CLINTON LEFT BUSH A 5700B DEBT
BUSH LEFT OBAMA AN 11,800B DEBT

CLINTON LEFT BUSH A 70% INCREASE IN GDP
BUSH LEFT OBAMA A 40% INCREASE IN GDP

CLINTON LEFT BUSH A 19.8% INCREASE IN REVENUES
BUSH LEFT OBAMA A 14.8% INCREASE IN REVENUES

CLINTON LEFT BUSH 18.5% OF GDP IN EXPENDITURES
BUSH LEFT OABMA 24.7% OF GDP IN EXPENDITURES

CLINTON LEFT BUSH 237,000 NET NEW JOBS CREATED PER MONTH
BUSH LEFT OBAMA 31,000 PER MONTH LOWEST SINCE HOOVER.

CLINTON LEFT BUSH PEACE ON EARTH
BUSH LEFT OBAMA HELL ON EARTH WITH TWO DISASTROUS WARS

CLINTON LEFT BUSH A PRESIDENT MOST HIGHLY RATED IN PEACETIME
IN EUROPE-AFRICA AND ASIA
BUSH LEFT OBAMA MOST HATED IN HISTORY


BUSH LEFT OBAMA A HOUSING AND FINANCIAL TSUNAMI
BUSH LEFT OBAMA, IN 2008, AN 8500B BAILOUT COMMITMENT
BUSH LEFT OBAMA HIS 2008 TAKEOVER OF AIG, FANNIE-FREDDIE,
AND INITIAL BAILOUT OF CHRYSLER

YET! DEMOCRATS ARE UNABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONE OF MOST DISASTROUS ADMINSTRATIONS IN HISTORY. SLEEPWALKING THROUGH HISTORY???

[msongs]

4. our welfare military is the biggest part of big government, more than HALF or so nt

[stray cat]

5. I don't want big ineffective government. I want effective government

[ibegurpard]

6. they aren't making the case for it because they don't believe it

If you haven't learned that over the past two years then I don't know what to tell you

[totodeinhere]

7. Both sides want big government in spite of what they might say.

It's just that they have very different ideas about what that big government should do. Conservatives want big government to help the upper class keep all of it's money and make more.

[polichick]

8. They just need to make the case for SMART gov't that looks out for people. nt