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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:48 PM
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Finally it's boiled down. The Tea Party is really a White Nationalist "Christian" Movement
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 09:09 PM by zulchzulu
Matthew Rothschild with Progressive Radio in his weekly podcast interviewed Chip Berlet of Political Research Associates, where they talked about the roots and tendencies of the so-called Tea Party. The most obvious thing about all this is that "libertarian" is nothing more than window dressing. How can you be anti-abortion and Libertarian, for instance? Illustrating the links that go back to the John Birch Society and other selfish conservative roots are linked in this co-opted alliance with the Republican party.

A fascinating and spot-on interview... follow the link:
https://www.progressive.org/radioweekly

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:50 PM
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1. I wouldn't say it's Christian. Nope. I wouldn't say that at all. nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:54 PM
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2. Christian in name only - faux Christian, and faux patriots. nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:57 PM
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4. Exactly!
The KKK were/are a White Nationalist "Christian" movement. Nothing to really do with Jesus. He'd be a Green.


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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:00 PM
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5. Sorry, but that IS christianity - the warts are part of the package.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:24 PM
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7. No True Scotsman fallacy.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 02:39 PM
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19. More like Paulists - they follow what Paul did, not Jesus
:grr:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:31 AM
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14. Looks like Christianity to me. n/t
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 02:05 PM
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18. Not really.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:57 PM
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21. No true Scotsman fallacy. As well as the words of Jesus himself that are hateful.
Christians can be nice, they can be mean and hateful. They can be anything they want to be, believe whatever they want to be and call themselves Christians.

It's a self-labeling phenomenon. Hitler was a good Catholic and said he was sent by God to save Germany from their enemies.

Not to mention that a lot of what Jesus said was hateful, irrational and cruel. Liberal Christians ignore those parts of the gospel. There are over a hundred examples of hateful and mean things Jesus said. It goes a lot further than "I come not in peace but with a sword". Jesus said that all the cruel laws in the Old Testament were just fine with him, and all the mass murders God and man committed in the OT were peachy.

So please stop the "they are not really Christians" idea. If you would read the gospels thoroughly you would see the cruel words of Jesus.



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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:54 PM
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3. I've always thought the TP's were the RW evangelists of the
Pubs finally ecerting their power. I still think that.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:21 PM
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6. Duh!
We all knew that but the MSM has been helping to perpetuate the myth and propaganda that they are this movement that just evolved. A racist is a racist is a racist.

No surprise here.
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:10 AM
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13. +1
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:25 PM
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8. Now you're gettin' it!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:47 PM
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9. They're Birchers? No kidding??
Next thing you know, progressives will connect it to the Bradley Foundation and other conservative privatizers.

I've been saying this for over 5 years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5469900
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:27 PM
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11. I've known it for a while, but the historical analysis and final assessment are spot on
All one had to do was attend a Tea Party rally for five minutes and you'd see it was all essentially a David Duke rally with more white trash and bussed-in evangelist racists than usual.


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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:17 PM
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10. Stevie Wonder can see who they are.
:evilfrown:
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:29 PM
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12. My niece is heavily involved in Tea-Party movement.
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 10:33 PM by golfguru
She is not Christian (she is Hindu religion)
and has south Asian ancestry.
And she told me I would be very welcome to join in.
But I have too many issues with them so I will
remain a centrist leaning democrat. Bill Clinton
will be my hero for my entire remaining life.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:54 PM
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16. You can count on one hand the amount of Hindus who are Teabaggers
Being "welcome to join in" must be after you get a lobotomy.

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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:59 PM
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22. Here is the most well known Hindu teabagger...
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 12:04 AM by golfguru
http://www.nikkihaley.com/about-nikki

Well, actually she is from Sikh religion family which
is an offshoot of Hindu religion in the sense that
all original Sikhs were Hindu's.

But now she has converted to her husband's religion
which is Methodist Christian.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 02:06 AM
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24. lobotomy does not make people stupid, any more than any other
form of massive brain damage does. would you be so insensitive as to ever say that people more readily become idiots if they have MS or a brain tumor or .... ?

there are lobotomy survivors in the world around you, you know.
people around DU had stopped equating lobotomized with ignorance. i hope you will join that trend.

lobotomy is performed as torture-for-life. for-life includes the aspersions it forever-after invites.

thank you for listening.


peace
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:34 AM
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15. Been saying that for over a year.
The Tea Party is the farthest right of the angry far right Republicans.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:56 PM
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17. Central California is redneck country! They need to MOVE!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 02:53 PM
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20. Pretty much. n/t
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:13 AM
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23. We have them here too in Canada. Saw a show a night ago, Christian
Science Foundation, blew me away. I thought we here in Canada more progressive but we are regressing with Harper at the Helm. I really do not care for Ignatieef, he ousted Dion for the Leadership of the liberal party. Ignatieef is a political whore, lived in the US for 25 years, agreed with the invasion of Iraq and now here to lead the Liberals. Now you know, we are fucked! Harper will get elected again as we do not have two terms like you all in the US! And our NPD woman, Carole James, hiding under a rock whilst we have to divvy up for the effing olympic games!
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 11:19 AM
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25. Maybe the same thing but I think they're a Neo-KKK.
Reading the history and looking at pics of the KKK the slogans, phrases and methods are very much the same.

In fact, just now I was going to give a link showing some of the similarities, but decided to post one of the comments. I think it says it all.

http://mankatofreepress.com/local/x58344143/Klan-history-shared-by-historian

Chuck wrote:

I am sure there were chapters of the KKK that did some terrible things, but many of us in Southern Minnesota find ourselves wondering where we can find support to 'take back our towns'. We try to be proud of our towns and what they have to offer but when people move in and take over, many of them of questionable character, we can only through our hands up and give in because to expect someone to conform to our society and standard, particularly to demand that of a minority is prejudice. I hate to see it come to this, but the KKK may rise again. I hope not, but America is not longer America, land of the free. It is the home of the minorities and the rest of us have to walk on eggs shells or get out.

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