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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:10 AM
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Loss of both House and Senate seems a forgone conclusion
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 01:12 AM by grantcart




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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:14 AM
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1. Point made perfectly.
:kick: and 1st to Recommend.
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piggy2000 Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:39 PM
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28. Get out and Vote America! Volunteer if you have the time.
The rent is too high, because "W" was the landlord for too long.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:26 AM
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2. I'll make that Rec #5. I tellz ya, I am weeping over here at our losses 2 weeks from now
... before a single vote is cast. :eyes: We're doooooomed!elevenses!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:06 PM
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21. Woops! You are wrong. I already voted -- and only for Democrats.
So at least one vote has been cast already -- for Democrats.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:31 AM
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3. Good point!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:56 AM
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4. K&R!!!!
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:08 AM
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5. That T-Shirt should say
OHIO
BEAT
your
BOEHNER

Or is that too rude
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:08 AM
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6. And won't the media be upset.
they have made up their mind the Democrats are going to loose and so be it. But this is one thing they can't take away from us. They took our news, and they gave us crap.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:31 AM
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7. Ugh...when a party starts pulling out the Truman analogies...
You know they are in trouble.

Every losing candidate since 1948 has done the same thing...

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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:14 AM
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9. Well, then its a good thing grantcart is not a candidate.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:09 AM
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11. Thanks for the pep talk.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:19 AM
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12. It is a perfect snapshot of the corporate media's stand
They have worked this election harder than any GOP candidate, operative or dedicated volunteer. They've set the type for the Big GOP Sweep! headline, let's see if they get to use it . My money's on no but I'm just a soldier in the trenches, on the ground, I may not know all that the lofty keyboard warriors know.

Julie
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 11:42 AM
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14. The reason that is analagous this time is that the pollsters have admitted that
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 11:50 AM by grantcart
they do not know who is turning out.



Poll after poll shows Democrats leading with registered voters and close or behind with 'likely voters'.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-abramowitz/gallups-implausible-likel_b_764345.html

It's a shocking result. According to the Gallup Poll, a generic Republican candidate currently leads a generic Democratic candidate by 17 points among likely voters in a hypothetical House matchup. A margin of that magnitude on Election Day would almost certainly result in a Republican gain of at least 80 seats in the House of Representatives and the largest GOP majority since the 1920's. But how plausible are Gallup's results?
An examination of some of the internals from the latest Gallup survey of likely voters leads to the conclusion that these results are wildly implausible.

An examination of some of the internals from the latest Gallup survey of likely voters leads to the conclusion that these results are wildly implausible. First, Gallup shows a much larger percentage of Republicans (55% Republican identifiers and leaners vs. 40% Democratic identifiers and leaners) and conservatives (51% conservative vs. 28% moderates and 18% liberals) than we've ever seen in a modern election. They also show a smaller percentage of voters under the age of 30 (7%) and a larger percentage of voters over the age of 65 (27%) than we've seen in any modern election. But that's not all. The candidate preference results for some subgroups of voters are just wildly implausible.

Gallup's latest likely voter survey shows a generic Republican leading a generic Democrat by a whopping 28 points among whites, 62% to 34%. To put those numbers in perspective, in 1994, according to national exit poll data, Republicans only won the white vote by 16 points, 58% to 42%, and that was their best showing since the advent of exit polling. Gallup is telling us that right now the Republican lead among whites who are likely to vote is 12 points larger than the GOP margin among whites in 1994.

But that's not the most implausible result in the latest Gallup likely voter survey. Among nonwhites other than blacks, a group that comprises about 13% of likely voters, a generic Republican is leading a generic Democrat by 10 points, 52% to 42%. That's a group that voted Democratic by a 2-1 margin in the 2006 midterm election. Moreover, it's a group that has never given a majority of its vote to Republican candidates for Congress in any election since the advent of exit polling. According to the 2006 exit poll results, about two-thirds of these "other nonwhite" voters are Latinos. How plausible is it that at a time when the Republican Party is closely associated with stridently anti-immigrant policies that Latino voters are moving in droves toward Republican candidates? Not plausible at all, especially when Gallup's results are directly contradicted by other recent polls of Latino voters


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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:00 PM
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15. Really? Please expand on your thoughts.
If you have links, I'd like to peruse them.


You fail at teh negative.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 04:19 PM
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17. grantcart: now known as "the party"
nice work captain dunsel.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 04:48 PM
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20. self pulled. I just get so tired of the defeatist attitudes shown by Dems!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 04:51 PM by herbm
I am GOP and I support the President. Now. More than ever.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:06 AM
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8. Well done. K&R.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:01 AM
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10. Second picture down....says it all.. ....nt
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:31 AM
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13. Getting a little ahead of themselves and perhaps too confident, I ....
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 10:32 AM by wisteria
received a call from The College Republicans, asking me to vote on who I would be voting for in the 2012 election. The choices were, Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, Palin, Obama, other, or not sure. When I chose Obama they quickly hung up on me.
I really, really, hope we pull this out and our loses aren't as huge as the media and the Republicans are hoping for. I feel fairly confident that this isn't going to be a landslide for the Repubs.
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:11 PM
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22. Bah, hahaha!
Bet your poll response gets lost!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 03:01 PM
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16. And if we keep both houses, we could be BETTER off IF we fix the fillibuster!
Even if we just have narrow majorities in both! A lot more of the blue dogs I think will be the ones that get purged. The ones left I think will want to get things done!
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 04:32 PM
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18. Does it now?
Vote.

That is what is important. Not polls. Not the media. Vote.

We have early voting, and I voted for all the Democrats on the ballot. The one office that did not have a Democrat, I voted Green.


If people who would vote Democrat get out and vote, the Democrats will be OK.

But, people need to vote.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 04:47 PM
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19. Freaking whiners, pull on your big girl pants and kick shit out of the tea bagging scum balls.
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 04:47 PM by herbm
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:29 PM
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23. Fuck the "Narrative"
The M$M lap dogs and their filthy rich corporate bosses need us all to buy in to their narrative so their republican tools can help them ship your jobs overseas, dismantle Social Security, and deregulate Wall Street and the Banksters.

This is a fight for the very soul of America and we can beat back this tide.

YES. WE. CAN.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:37 PM
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24. The New York Times says
yesterday that it will all depend on black turnout. That is good news because if that is the only criteria, we know that the blacks are fully mobilized to support Obama.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:13 PM
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25. I think a 'Spank Boehner' shirt would be just excellent. nt
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:40 PM
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26. Yeah only if you listen to the LSM pundits were all doomed....FTA.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:15 PM
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27. You are without doubt one of my favorite posters here on DU
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mrmpa Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:49 PM
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29. just mailed in 3 absentee requests
for me because I work at a polling place away from mine
for mom who is 80 and has mobility issues
for my nephew who is away at college. I visited him 2 weeks ago, he filled out and signed the form & I mailed it in.
That's 3 votes not for republicans. Count another 11 in our family who will be voting and 2 of those working at the polls.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:19 AM
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30. wow, where's the media coverage of these events?!?!
that crowd is HUGE.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 05:12 AM
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31. Since 1983
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 05:14 AM by LatteLibertine
the infotainment we consume has been reduced to being owned by about six large corporations.

There are definitely GOP operatives out seeking to demoralize Democrats in order to depress our voter turn out.

The overwhelming majority of the GOP are crony capitalists. They need to be kept in the minority or preferably removed from office.

Make sure you get off your butt and vote Nov 2. Crony capitalists have the cash and we have the raw numbers. As another said, "Fuck the narrative."
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