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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 11:42 AM
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What is the Fix writer smoking? Her reporting about MA is incredibly misleading.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 12:06 PM by Mass
Nobody should say that the MA governor's race is a cakewalk for Deval Patrick. He is going to work hard for this.

However, the Fix makes is a much more closer race than it is, and for that insists in ignoring the reality. I guess this is what passes for proper reporting in DC.

The core of the article is that the mood is "Throw the bump out". So, they find one person (an 86 year old voter) to support their claim (not necessarily wrong, but this is only half of the picture)
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/governors/enthusiasm-gap-at-issue-in-mas.html

WEST ROXBURY, Mass. -- For Barney Steverman, the 2010 election comes down to two words: No incumbents.

"There isn't a Democrat that I would vote for today," said Steverman, an 86-year-old registered Democrat and World War II veteran who is supporting Republican Charlie Baker in his bid to unseat incumbent Gov. Deval Patrick (D)
...


However, the rest of the article is amusingly weird.

First, to sustain the claim that this is a very close race when all polls but one show the race as a 5 to 7 points, the writer had to rely on a one month old Boston Globe poll and a Baker (R) poll and to ignore the Rasmussen poll showing Patrick at +5.


By all indications, the race will be a closely contested one. A Suffolk Poll last week showed Patrick taking 46 percent to Baker's 39 percent, with Cahill taking 10 percent and Green-Rainbow candidate Jill Stein taking 1 percent. Baker's camp released its own internal polling showing the Republican taking 42 percent to Patrick's 35 percent. And late last month, a Boston Globe poll showed the race in a statistical dead heat, with Patrick taking 35 percent, Baker taking 34 percent and Cahill trailing with 11 percent.


Even more amusing is the claim that Baker is a man of the people.

Later, the 6-foot-6 Baker, clad in a light blue button-down shirt and blue jeans, got behind the restaurant's bar and tried his hand at pouring a few drinks.

"That last round was on Charlie!" the bartender yelled as the patrons cheered.

"Don't tell my wife!" Baker responded, to laughs.
...
"I don't see Deval walking in here and having a pint with this crowd," Oag said.


Now, the same Boston Globe poll was actually showing Baker's likeability very low including for GOPers and the latest Rasmussen Poll and Suffolk Poll show him with lower Fav/unfav than Patrick,

This will come as a big surprise to people in MA. Even his consultants and the RW Boston Herald would not say that.

Here is a GOP NPR consultant, for example

http://electionwire.wbur.org/2010/10/18/baker-blunders
With two weeks to go, will the real Charlie Baker please stand?

Today's Boston Globe has his nth version of "could we have a better Baker article"

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2010/10/20/for_baker_relaxing_could_be_the_key/

...
But aides, and Baker himself, worry that he can seem inaccessible in his encounters with ordinary people. That he tries to answer all the questions, but sometimes talks too much. That he does not show his personable side enough, a concern borne out by a recent Globe poll that suggested Baker was named the most likable candidate by only 44 percent of his own supporters.

His inner circle is constantly reminding him to keep his message simple, to tap into public anger over the economy.
...


If your aides are ready to say that on record, how likeable are you?

Now, I cant say whether Patrick will win or not, but the narrative by the Post is highly distorted.

(Oops, I wanted to post that on GD, but it is a good example of how the media will insist on their narrative whatever the facts are).
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:40 PM
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1. This is a race the national media should be all over.
Charlie Baker is exactly the kind of Republican that Massachusetts will elect governor. But polls show him trailing and not making up ground in the past few weeks. This is a state that voted for Scott Brown who is much more conservative than Baker, so one would think that Massachusetts would be easy picking for a guy like Baker. But it ain't happening. If Patrick wins, I think this would bode poorly for Scott Brown in 2012. The national media was all over Brown when he won acting like this was indicative of the Republican sweep encompassing the nation. But the media will be silent when Patrick wins as what that would mean.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:43 PM
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2. All over, but not making facts up. At least we could hope they would not.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 12:44 PM by Mass
The national media does not see Baker winning any more than the local media do, which is why they are not here. It does not fit their narrative.

Also, Patrick is not Coakley. He is a good campaigner and communicates well. Brown would not have won if Coakley had made a real effort.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 01:12 PM
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5. Speaking of Coakley. WCVB did a debate with her opponent McKenna a couple of days ago
WCVB had both of them sitting side by side on stools. Thing is McKenna is much taller than her and every time he spoke he got to look down at the top of her head and whenever she addressed him, she had to look straight up at him. It looked very awkward. But I would expect no more from the station that kept Scott's Brown wife on staff during his run for senate.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:26 PM
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10. Yeah, usually Jon Keller on WBZ is creaming his jockeys
about how "wonderful" the Republican candidates are. But so far all he's been able to muster on the gubernatorials are "all the candidates suck amirite guyz".
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 01:51 PM
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7. Interesting observations
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 02:08 PM by karynnj
Do you think that Brown's support of Perry (even in the primaries) and of Hudak could hurt Brown - in addition to his recent road block Republicans votes against expanding unemployment, against the small business bill, and against the Disclose act will really hurt Brown, with Boston's media in love with him?

Brown sounded completely out of his element in his last two Senate speeches - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/clip.php?appid=598858824 and http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/clip.php?appid=598868598 He also made a HUGE production about being sick - but if he were neither of these speeches HAD to made, especially as they say almost nothing. (From Wednesday to the weekend, he seemed to completely recover when he was speaking at a Perry event. http://www.necn.com/10/02/10/Scott-Brown-campaigns-for-Jeff-Perry-in-/landing_politics.html?blockID=323328&feedID=4212 )

It is interesting that the Boston papers ignored the two pretty poor speeches.

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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:48 PM
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3. If Patrick wins it will put the "Scott Brown Phenomenon" to bed
and prove that Coakley lost more so than Brown won. He managed to cash in on a poorly run campaign by Coakley, a low turnout special election, and a huge out of state teabag cash influx. This year's governor's race is not comparable at all.

Even the nutjobs Hudak and Perry running against Tierney (MA 6) and Keating (MA 10) are either not gaining a foothold or losing support. The only one who seems to be doing ok is Bielat against Barney Frank, and even there I see no chance for a GOP takeover.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:53 PM
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4. I certainly hope Perry loses. What a piece of trash. The victim has an article in the Globe.
Not that I want any of these jokers to win, but I dont see them winning, and, short of something weird happening, I dont see Baker winning. The narrative in the media is the narrative generally reserved to Dems (He does not connect).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 01:46 PM
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6. Nice job in pointing out the article's strange claims
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 01:52 PM by karynnj
I had never seen Baker until I clicked on an NECN link of a young Republican's event he and Scott Brown had. Even before this group of young committed Republicans, he seemed to inspire few. http://www.necn.com/10/16/10/Sen-Scott-Brown-campaigns-for-Charlie-Ba/landing_politics.html?blockID=332730&feedID=4212

For those, like me, who have not seen Baker, it is interesting. I did see Patrick at a Faneuil Hall event when he ran in 2006. It was the first event I ever saw in Faneuil Hall - and both Patrick and Faneuil Hall were awesome. (Unrelated to this race, it seems Brown was not very compelling in that clip at all and it seemed sparsely attended. )

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 02:26 PM
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8. The numbers in the MA governor's race haven't moved in two months,
no matter how many pints Charlie Baker pours or how many negative ads he runs. His ass is gonna LOSE November 2.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 03:35 PM
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9. "No way in hell am I going to vote for an insurance company CEO."
A response frequently heard from Massachusetts voters, when asked about the candidates and their likely support.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:40 PM
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11. The guy is Mitt Romney v2.0 beta.
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