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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:02 AM
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It's not about Obama. It's about YOU!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 12:20 PM by Skinner
Obama Will Triumph -- So Will America
By Frank Schaeffer

Before he'd served even one year President Obama lost the support of the easily distracted left and engendered the white hot rage of
the hate-filled right. But some of us, from all walks of life and ideological backgrounds -- including this white, straight, 57-year-old, former religious right wing agitator, now progressive writer and (given my background as the son of a famous evangelical leader) this unlikely Obama supporter -- are sticking with our President. Why? -- Because he is succeeding.

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:04 AM
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1. Rec for accuracy:
>>Who failed are the smart ass ideologues of the left and right who began rooting for this President to fail so that they could be proved right in their dire and morbid predictions. <<
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:06 AM
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2. filthy smear against the left
the left has gone along with Obama on everything, despite their objections. Obama owes the left big-time.

Not since the introduction of racial integration has any president faced a more consistently short- sighted and willfully ignorant opposition - from both the right and left.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:22 AM
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7. Bullshit! No they haven't!! Anybody who didn't get their
pet cause addressed OVER FUCKIN NIGHT, bitched, moaned, pissed and complained the ENTIRE FUCKIN YEAR!!! It takes ONE FUCKIN SECOND to get pregnant and NINE FUCKIN MONTHS for a fetus to form and be delivered and THAT'S ONE FUCKIN THING!! ONE!! THIS man did ALL THIS SHIT IN ONE YEAR and "people" like you are STILL not satisfied. AND HE'S NOT FINISHED!!! So, essentially you'd rather live in the streets and stand in a soup line than SEE THIS MAN SUCCEED!! THAT'S WHAT ALL OF YOU ARE SAYING!!!!
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:31 AM
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11. and it's spam too
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:34 AM
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12. It certainly bears repeating!! n/t
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:47 PM
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31. How is this spam?
Cause if I didn;t know better, you are calling out members by accusing them of posting spam.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:18 PM
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15. Nobody owes the left anything
The left does not make the effort or stick with it. Its support is useless.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:30 PM
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17. Sad sad commentary. n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:36 PM
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18. And your donations and phonebanking hours for 2010 would be...?
I thought so. :eyes:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 12:02 PM
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37. Anyone can make claims on the internet
My belief is that anyone who really worked hard would not have given up already.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 02:26 AM
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38. Thanks, I have my answer.
Maybe you should make sure your computer chair is adjusted properly before you tell us more about how the left is useless. :eyes:

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:53 PM
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21. "Gone along with?" Hardly.
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 01:55 PM by CakeGrrl
When people are whining about primary challengers because a whole 8-year shitload of Bush crap set in motion and blowing up now hasn't been fixed in TWO YEARS, I call that short-sighted.

When people call him a corporate sellout and a homophobe ad nauseum, maybe you call that "going along", but I've seen some willful ignorance going on to justify the name-calling.

And for this, he's supposed to simply be grateful? People can lob all kinds of shit at him and expect everything to be done in a half a Presidential term, but that's all good because he owes us?

Oh, and after NOT delivering every repeal and undo and fix in two years, he'd better not have the nerve to tell us to get out there and keep voting so the work can keep getting done. He'd better GIVE the Progressives a reason to get off their asses! Right?

Remember, he's not going to be on the short end of the stick when Congress tilts Republican. He has a job, he has healthcare.

And the people who sat back and waited for all good things to fall in their lap from their corporate sellout president? Maybe not so much.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:05 PM
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27. PREACH!!!
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:09 AM
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3. Excellent Analysis! nt
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:14 AM
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4. True dat! K & R n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:18 AM
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5. It is about each of us - so decide if the GOP or Dems are better long term for yourself!
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:20 AM
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6. Where was this first posted/published?
Thanks.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:23 AM
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8. You'd have to search it. I got it in an e-mail. n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:25 AM
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9. Frank never stopped attacking the left, and his dog whistling
This is a man who has spread so much hate, division and intolerance for the sake of his ego and profit that he should spend years apologizing and offering acts of penance, instead he barely revamped his old hyperbolic calling out of the sinners, still using mountains of religious terminology.
This is a man who I have protested. This is a man who along with his father virtually designed the very religious right he now claims to call out as equals to his constant targets, the 'left' by which he means GLBTQ people who will not sit down and shut up. It is a common thread of his work, old and new, the finger pointing histrionics and fire breathing invective about those who do not please Frank that day. Same old preacher man, preaching. So much he could do among his own former peers, the professional evangelists, authors of 'spiritual books, the givers of right wing seminars. His own people. The people he helped create.
Utter tripe from a man who will never balance the rot he brought to this nation if he lives to be 200, Frank Jr. How should you then live, Frank? In constant apology for all you have done and said. That's how.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:30 AM
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10. He never stopped and I'm just gettin started!! And it's by
virtue of WHO HE IS and what he supposedly represents that HE IS ASTOUNDINGLY ACCURATE IN HIS ASSESSMENT!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:39 PM
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19. Oh please. Fundie Frank just exchanged on object of worship for another.
The guy makes some occasional good points about the religious right but ultimately, he's still searching for his daddy.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:02 PM
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25. Whatever he exchanged or is still searching for he damned
sure told the truth this time.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:25 PM
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28. No, he said something that happened to reinforce your preconceptions.
That is not "truth". You should probably learn the difference between those two concepts.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:36 PM
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29. As far as I'm concerned it's the truth because it is indicative of
of what I've witnessed since day one. I'm not going by any third parties or second hand information but what I've SEEN AND HEARD. THAT IS NOT OPINION. THAT IS FACT.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:44 PM
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30. Like I said: learn the difference between the two concepts.
Sadly, you're not off to a very good start.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:50 PM
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32. I know the difference and I also know the babblings of a moron.
Thanks for the kick.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 06:00 PM
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35. Yes, that last is a concept I have no doubt you understand completely.
:rofl:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:41 PM
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20. He was a professional hate monger.
And he is still making his living via spreading divisions and by labeling others. This is his only skill, vitriol. He used it when he built the religious right and he uses it as he assists them from his cover as a 'moderate centrist'.
As I said, the amount of evil this man has promoted in this world, just to make money, he should never stop apologizing and he will never have the trust of any of the communities he slandered and attacked in word, in deed, in print, in massive Evangelical meetings starring Frank.
He was a professional hate monger, and he is not much different now, save that his target audience is the richer 'centrists'. More in the pockets for Frank to pick.
Frank kept all the cash he and Dad pulled in with their venom. And that says it all. They lived in Swiss Chalets, flew here on private jets, slandered American women and GLBT people and of course, as he still does 'liberals'.
Frank is a broken record. Big old right to lifer. Same lexicon, same objectives.
He is a man who should never stop apologizing, never stop trying to fix what he did to so many people.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:03 PM
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26. The truth is the light. Let it shine. n/t
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:34 AM
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13. We all better stop bitching and get out the Democratic vote
Or maybe we would like to just throw up our hands and give up?

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:38 AM
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14. People on here think they're fucked up NOW!!!??? See what
happens with a republican congress!!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:28 PM
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16. Thanks Skinner. n/t
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 03:03 PM
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23. Wow, then so is yours.
Thin skin much?

:rofl:

Hopefully you weren't over there the on GD other week telling the President to "man up". That would be kind of ironic.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 04:41 PM
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24. K&R
Schaeffer is terrific.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:53 PM
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33. Seems one of us is the fucking President and one is a guy on the bottom of the shitheap
I think to say it isn't about the President is fundamentally foolish. He's got the ball and Frank and I have different definitions of success. I guess what he sees in quite palatable to a recovering Reich wing extremist.

Easily distracted is a statement full or ignorant arrogance as well. The wailing is the result of laser focus on issues that partisan centrists think can be swept under the rug or flushed down the memory hole.

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:57 PM
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34. Sorry that hurt your feelings but the man is not exaggerating.
I've seen that right on DU.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:41 AM
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36. My feelings are fine and dandy. Address the post or make general responses.
I don't use the same matrix to evaluate success as "centrists" and recovering Reich wing loons.

Success in what? Funneling money to the wealthy, dismantling civil liberties, allowing our infrastructure to continue to rot, to allow corporate criminals to hijack our nation, continuing inequality, to prop up a zombie banking system with no goal other than the extraction of resources from workers and the poor, to sell our electoral process to the highest bidder with no answer other than whimpering lip service, to step up the destruction of innocent lives around the world for corporate profit and political posturing, to oversee wage destruction on an epic scale, to steal away our Social Security, to institute the IMF plan to destroy public education, to bust the last union with any strength, to continue the absurd and wasteful "war on drugs"?

What fucking success? Schaeffer is bullshit and so is his worthless meme that you're trying to push.

The wealth disparity has grown, wars wage on, we've not net created a single job in years, wages ate declining, poverty and homelessness increase.

I guess success is notches on a belt rather than the prosperity of the people to you guys and that is what I find upsetting not an impotent whinefest from a "former" right winger still lip locked on corporate taint and little regard for working folk and the poor.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 07:35 AM
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40. Total bullshit. I supported Obama all the way through the primaries ...................
and he lost my respect when he traded away the lefts values in backroom deals with big-pharma and the health insurance companies. When it comes to firing up the base and holding his ground during debates, the man that is in office is a shell of the man who ran for office.

I have no doubt that Obama is a gifted speaker, a pretty smart individual, and the ability to fundamentally change the course of this nation. I just doubt his motivation to do so.

Calling us the "easily distracted left" is a complete waste of time and accomplishes nothing when these are the people who only want what Obama promised during his 2008 campaign. We're not the ones accepting watered-down legislation, so it makes me wonder who is really easily distracted, because it's not the left.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 03:57 AM
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39. Too late to rec but I can kick!
I posted this in AAIG last year. It was a huge hit. :)
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