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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:01 PM
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Fact: More private sector jobs have been created THIS YEAR than during 8 years of Bush.
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 08:02 PM by Clio the Leo
Did you know this? I have to confess, I didn't realize it until Speaker Pelosi said it tonight on Countdown. Now ... send this to everyone you know.

Reality Check: More Jobs Created under Obama than Bush (chart)
By StevePublished: 10/11/2010 at 7:55 am

The latest jobs report was released on Friday and makes clear what most of us already knew: the economy is on a slower path to recovery than most anticipated or expected. In spite of this reality, most people are still overlooking the truth: more private sector jobs have been created just this year than during the entire eight years of the Bush administration.

While the facts provide no comfort for those of us who are suffering, it is a reminder that we shouldn’t allow the teabaggers and Republicans to continue in distorting the truth and placing blame on the shoulders of the Obama administration. As much as they hate to hear it: the Democrats have been struggling to correct the mess left from eight years of Republican leadership.



Recovery will take time due to the overwhelming economic mess left by the Bush/Cheney administration, but we’re on the right track. A return to Republican leadership in Congress will only cause more gridlock and reverse the trend toward solid economic recovery.

http://veracitystew.com/2010/10/11/reality-check-more-jobs-created-under-obama-than-bush-chart/
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:16 PM
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1. thanks for posting this, Clio. I'm glad you mentioned the suffering of those
who aren't in the 'jobs created' group, though. The sad truth is that many of us are glad the stats show an uptick, but we don't see it or sense it or really believe it because our personal experience says the opposite. I wish I could feel different, but in my area things are looking WORSE not better.

Rec.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:30 PM
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2. How often do you hear that from the media?
If the media don't make a big deal out of it then it won't register with a lot of people. That's the so-called "messaging problem" as I see it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:33 PM
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3. And of course it's the best kept secret in the country.
Thanks for posting. :toast:

Julie
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:37 PM
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4. Big ol' K&R
I'd rather be the tortoise than the hare.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:42 PM
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5. K&R
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:43 PM
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6. Very important news!
"more private sector jobs have been created just this year than during the entire eight years of the Bush administration."

Recommended.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:04 PM
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7. why is it that the dems are struggling - the repukes should be struggling
The dems just do not know how to repeat the truth until people understand.

The repukes repeat lies until they become facts. Why can't dems repeat facts and provide data? Over and over and over. It is the only way that people understand.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 11:23 PM
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34. Because the Democratic candidates are too afraid to run on their record.
Instead they are on the defensive, saying "No, I didn't do that, or mean that, or say that."

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:04 PM
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8. Kick. Rec, Look at that bikini graph!
President Obama, sir, :yourock:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:06 PM
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9. That is a great graphic. May it go viral!!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:10 PM
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10. Wonderful!!
:thumbsup:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:22 PM
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11. K and R
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:29 PM
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12. And yet amazingly enough, the overall jobless rate continues to climb
This entire "private sector job growth" meme is nothing but a smokescreen designed to confuse and disguise the fact that our employment situation hasn't improved and could very well be getting worse. More happy talk, less results.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:39 PM
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13. It's happy talk for those who have actually found a job...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:46 PM
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14. Employment is decreasing rapidly
When compared to the growing working population. It's ugly.

That's what happens when you ignore reliable economists like Krugman in favor of swine like Summers.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:18 AM
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19. It was at 10% in January and is now at 9.6% ....
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 08:20 AM by Clio the Leo
... I'll give you "stagnated" which is still terrible but "continues to climb?" No.

My father talked to someone who honestly believes the problem STARTED under Obama .... the point is not that he's "fixed" it, but that all the blame does not rest on his shoulders and the GOP gaining control of Congress wont help.

If you want to let people blame Barack Obama as the sole cause for the unemployment crisis, that's on you.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 01:13 PM
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21. So, you blame Obama, no matter what.
Still awaiting the Socialist Paradise...the rest of us will move forward.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 01:55 PM
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23. No, it's not just happy talk.
Overall job growth is anemic because public sector jobs are being lost. State and local governments are collecting less revenue, and if they can't make up for that revenue loss,since most of them have to balance their budgets, they have to lay people off. So teachers, firefighters, police officers, and other government workers are joining the ranks of the unemployed. The Federal Government could reverse this trend with sufficient revenue sharing, but the Republicans don't want to reverse it for political reasons, and they've blocked or weakened every Democratic effort to do so. Of course, when public sector employees are laid off,they spend less, and the reduced consumption further hampers private sector job creation. Yes the current situation is dismal, but it's dismal because the Republicans want it to be dismal, and they have the power to keep it that way.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:30 PM
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31. You have no grasp of the actual facts
overall jobless rate continues to fall. Even as new people enter the job pool.
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:38 PM
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15. Which is why we must stay the course the only thing that held it back from full growth is the GOP.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 12:09 AM
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16. Thanks for some Good News, Clio!:
:bounce: :fistbump:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 12:29 AM
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17. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 01:27 AM
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18. How anyone can look at numbers like this and not conclude that
this president/administration is serious about addressing the jobs situation is beyond me. This is simply phenomenal news.

Kicked and rec'd.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 12:49 PM
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20. Very easily. Most people don't give a shit about charts and graphs
They care about what is happening in their lives, and we are nowhere near making up all the jobs that were lost.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:37 PM
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27. That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Most people don't give a shit about charts and graphs

Even if the charts and graphs show a significant improvement in the number of jobs created?? Wow.

Anyone that stupid surely shouldn't be advocated for here.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 09:58 PM
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32. Information junkies care. Average voters don't
As an information junkie, this pains me, but Lakoff et all have convinced me that policy wonkery is utterly useless in campaigning--you have to appeal to values.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 01:49 PM
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22. Many people value jobs, these numbers should be brought up often. Recommended. nt
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 03:39 PM
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24. It's the GOP who are the JOB KILLERS
One of the GOP's favorite Rovian tactics during this election cycle has been to accuse Democrats as being "job killers" -- when in reality, it is the GOP who are the REAL JOB KILLERS.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:28 PM
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25. Oh puleese
the ignorant voters and repuglicans don't care about no stinkin facts. :sarcasm: :evilgrin:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:36 PM
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26. Nancy Pelosi said the same thing last night on Countdown...nice to have the graph as well...
...this is going straight onto my blog..
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:44 PM
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28. Yes , and I've been shoving it the teabaggers faces
The deficit is also down 8% since Ombama's economic policies have taken effect.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 05:28 PM
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29. Here's a graph on the job creation record of the last 65 years
Job Growth
Many Americans are aware that George W. Bush has had the worst job creation record since the government began tracking these figures in 1939. But Bush's colossal failure to manage the economy overshadows a much larger story.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mHSyEv8vBt4/S6Zvl-nui8I/AAAAAAAAACQ/3j0wUSj78mk/s640/Job+growth+graph.jpg?


The record shows two unmistakable patterns:
Every time a Republican succeeds a Democrat in the White House, the job creation rate plummets.
Every time a Democrat succeeds a Republican in the White House, the job growth rate soars. Every time! No exceptions!


Over the last seventy years, the decrease in monthly job creation when a Republican succeeds a Democrat is 68,913

Considering the steady growth in population of the United States during this time frame the job creation rate should steadily increase each month (currently it must grow by 138,000 per month to keep up with population growth). This trend only manifests itself when examining Democratic administrations:

Listed below is the average job growth increase for all terms served:


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mHSyEv8vBt4/S6Z6xo0qSnI/AAAAAAAAACY/p8SkoEnN5dw/s640/job+creation+by+president.jpg?



By: mike kohr Graphics by: Bonny Kohr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/


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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:12 PM
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30. The number of jobs rose only 1.1 million under Dubya, compared to 22.7m under Clinton!
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 06:23 PM by ProgressiveEconomist
IMO these figures deserve wide distribution while Republicans
run hundreds of ads about "wasteful stimulus
spending".

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms
:

Jobs
created. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Start jobs .End jobs
(millions) President_Party_Term . (thousands).(thousands)
+05.9 .... JFK/LBJ____D_1961-65 . 053,683 . . 059,583
+09.9 .... Johnson____D_1965-69 . 059,583 . . 069,438
+06.2 .... Nixon______R_1969-73 . 069,438 . . 075,620

+05.1 .... Nixon/Ford_R_1973-77 . 075,620 . . 080,692
+10.3 .... Carter_____D_1977-81 . 080,692 . . 091,031
+05.3 .... Reagan_____R_1981-85 . 091,031 . . 096,353

+10.8 .... Reagan_____R_1985-89 . 096,353 . . 107,133
+02.6 .... GHWBush____R_1989-93 . 107,133 . . 109,725
+11.5 .... Clinton____D_1993-97 . 109,725 . . 121,231

+11.2 .... Clinton____D_1997-01 . 121,231 . . 132,469
000.0 .... Dubya______R_2001-05 . 132,469 . . 132,453
+01.1 .... Dubya______R_2005-09 . 132,453 . . 133,549

Thanks for the great links, mikekohr.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 11:12 PM
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33. This confirms what I have long suspected....
... GW Bush has a short bar.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 02:33 AM
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35. Isn't the correct statement
"Fewer jobs have been lost under Obama than under Bush." And "More jobs have been lost than created under Obama." That's what the chart seems to say.

On a net basis, several million jobs have been lost under Obama.

Also the private sector jobs created have tended to be service sector jobs -- restaurant workers and health care workers.
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