Is this true?

[Tennessee Gal]

Obama Changes Declaration of Independence to Omit "Creator"

http://www.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147498521

[Connie_Corleone]

1. Seriously??

[Tennessee Gal]

4. It was emailed to me

and I would like help in refuting.

[gateley]

8. Tennessee Gal, someone who would send this as Proof! wouldn't believe any

proof to the contrary. Don't get your blood pressure up over small minded bigots. :pals:

[Tennessee Gal]

9. She is a dear friend.

I am disappointed in her. I just responded that what she sent was unrealistic because no one can change the wording of a historical document.

[gateley]

17. Oh, that IS disappointing. I lost a dear friend when, years ago, she said

AIDS is God's way of punishing homosexuals. I said, Sandi, what is God punishing people with cancer for? Heart disease? She of course didn't have an answer but I realized we'd become very different people and after that I noticed other instances that maybe I hadn't seen before, when other judgments and prejudices kind of peeked through. It's sad - I hope you and your friend have a better 'future' than Sandi and I did. :pals:

And that's a great response, by the way!

[Parker CA]

2. Geezus. nt

[gateley]

3. Oh, Jesus - who cares? (I'm not dissing you, TG, I'm just rolling my eyes at these

wads who pick apart everything he does with a magnifying glass so they can create a Scandal! out of nothing.)

Obama is a Christian. He believes in a Creator. If it was omitted it was a mistake. My opinion, natch.

[Yeshuah Ben Joseph]

22. Certainly not Me.

What the President said was the same essence of what Thomas Jefferson said. So he didn't quote it word for word, big deal. There are a lot of ministers quoting from the Gospels every Sunday morning. Do they always quote Me, word for word? Of course not. The key here is whether they understand what it means. And that holds true for the Gospel AND the Declaration of Independence.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

5. Sounds like it's another stupid misbegotten internet rumor.

There are too many of them floating around nowadays. Question: Were there a bunch of left-wing internet rumors going around about Bush when he was in office? :shrug:

[Chulanowa]

7. Some people thought the phone gag was a real photo

Besides that it depends on what you count as "left wing"

[Proud Liberal Dem]

11. What phone gag?

I was just wondering if we circulated a lot of the same kind of tripe that gets circulated about Obama. The only other time I remember hearing about junk like this was when they were doing the same thing to Clinton. I don't remember anything coming out from our side that wasn't sourced/verifiable, well except for the 9/11 conspiracies but that's a "ball of wax" in and of itself.

[Chulanowa]

16. This one:

Frankly Republican administrations tend to be so absurd that we don't NEED to make stuff up!

[Ineeda]

12. Actually, there were, but I never paid much attention.

Two in particular that I remember was that * was prepping to declare martial law nationwide, and that he was going to suspend an election (mid-term? presidential? I don't remember) under the guise of national security. Yada yada. The difference was that such rumors didn't go very far, unlike the crap that's around nowadays.

[nxylas]

14. I think it was the 2008 election

The mad people in the Common Dreams comboxes were all furiously posting in all caps that ANYONE WHO THINKS THERE WILL BE AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER IS DELUSIONAL ARE ALIEN OVERLORDS WONT ALLOW IT!!!111eleven:tinfoilhat:

[MiniMe]

6. No, scholars don't change historic documents

Sounds like a Karl Rove plan

[secondwind]

10. Wrong--- he just happens to respect atheists, etc. and omits the word. What a bunch of nonsense.

[MiniMe]

13. Big surprise, it is from AFA

[CreekDog]

15. Just go ahead and believe it

If you think a document written by another author over 200+ years ago can be retroactively changed, then I'm pretty sure it's going to be a waste of time to correct you on this.

[CakeGrrl]

18. Yes! And by the end of his term, he'll rebuild the WH as a Pyramid.

:eyes:

[Ineeda]

19. Gee, I heard he was going to paint the White House black. LOL n/t

[saltpoint]

20. He burns down orphanages, too. Happens all the

time.

[awoke_in_2003]

21. he uses the constitution...

as toilet paper, too. Seriously, you have to actually ask this question?

on edit: I clicked on your link, even though I didn't want to (AFA requires a shower after viewing). The video is either edited or the word forgotten. It is just another case of 70% of the population (of which I do not belong to) who feel they are constantly being persecuted.

[JTFrog]

23. It's a common right wing meme used by the likes of freepers and Beck.

Media Matters on this subject: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201009190011

[bergie321]

24. How exactly

Would one go about changing a 234 year-old document that has been reproduced millions of times?

[Drunken Irishman]

27. A magic pen.

[silverweb]

25. He paraphrased in a speech recently.

I don't remember which speech, but it was one of the recent rallies. He said something about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but didn't mention that "the Creator" was responsible for that.

These RWers are blazing idiots.

[BlueIdaho]

26. Yes! The President can change the Delcaration of Independence any time they want.

I think I read it in the constitution...

[ProSense]

28. A lot can be learned from the "about us" page

● AFA won boycott victories over Ford Motor Company and McDonald’s. Both companies backed out of their promotion of the homosexual agenda, in part due to the flood of responses from AFA activists.

<...>

● Encouraging citizen activism remained at the heart of AFA’s mission. In 2007, Ford Motor Company sales continued to decline in part due to AFA’s ongoing national boycott over the company’s support of the homosexual agenda.

link

Does this group appear remotely interested in truth?

[ieoeja]

29. Yes! He travelled back in time to change the Declaration of Independance.

[Phx_Dem]

30. Did he just "white it out" with correction fluid?

:rofl:

[proud patriot]

31. oh good grief is nothing sacred to these bastards ?

:grr:

[CJCRANE]

32. I saw your subject line

and thought "this thread is going to be about a RW chain email".

Then I guessed the answer will be "no, it's not true".

[vaberella]

33. Logicly---all you have to do is hear it andknow it's false.n/t

[jenmito]

34. He used "Creator" twice today. n/t