Arianna: Obama Doesn't Seem To Be Learning From His Mistakes

[onehandle]

Arianna appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown" Friday night to discuss the disconnect between the Obama administration's record, its perception of that record, and the public's perception thereof.

Part of the problem, she told host Keith Olbermann, lies with President Barack Obama's failure both to effectively communicate his accomplishments and to learn from his mistakes -- to recognize, for example, that the stimulus needed to be larger, or to acknowledge the errors of senior advisers like National Economic Council Director Larry Summers.

"What is worse for me, Keith, is that he still doesn't seem to realize that that's what happened. He was on Jon Stewart a couple of nights ago, and he actually said ... 'heckuva job' to refer to Larry Summers," Arianna said. "And Larry Summers, of course, was responsible for painting a very different picture of the economy than the one that's unfolding right now."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-obama-mistakes-olbermann-video_b_776387.html

The 'heckuva job' moment during The Daily Show made my wife and I cringe like you would never believe.

[FrenchieCat]

1. I don't think Arianna is learning from hers........even this close to a big election,

nor do I think she is interested in Democrats retaining seats.....
Her having the same big mouth she's had all along,
does not learning make.


Guess because she got free publicity by spending money on a bus
for a rally that she had nothing to do with,
makes her a big hero, nevertheless,
and her trash will not not only be printed,
it will also be televised. :boring:

[depakid]

13. Arianna actuallty did learn from Al Franken

and had the courage to examine and change her own world view in response to facts and analysis. That's a LOT more than many politicians, people in general (or many posters on any sort of political site) have the courage to do.

[FrenchieCat]

16. Courage?

Or likes to be on any winning team,
after her Republicans' husband total defeat?

[depakid]

17. Honest and probing self examination of one's views does indeed take courage

Hurling insults on the other hand....

[FrenchieCat]

18. Yeah....understanding how one can be so selfish

as to push one's same views throughout the last 18 months,
and continue this close to the election,
no matter how many additional starving children it will result in,
takes a lot of courage....or a lot of whatever.

How's Australia doing? :hi:

[depakid]

24. Apparently, you haven't been reading what she's been writing

because it's been about helping Main Street (you know, starving children, people in fraudulent foreclosures, stuff like that).

Third World America.

[Cosmocat]

42. Friggen idiots, all of them ...

four days before the midterms, the very course of this country on the line, and yet another democratic big name puts knives into the president ...

The Rs have absolute lunatics on the ticket, and will excuse their every disaster, the freakin minority leader is campaigning with the idiot who does Nazi reenactments this weekend, and Huffington nitpicks the president ...

Friggen pathetic, seriously ...

[babylonsister]

2. Who made her the expert on all things Obama? And ftr,

Obama wanted a bigger freakin' stimulus but got what he could given the obstructionist crowd he has to work with. She's just becoming more annoying imo.

[onehandle]

7. .

[babylonsister]

8. Then what does this mean?

to recognize, for example, that the stimulus needed to be larger

[Enrique]

46. no, Obama worked against the bigger stimulus

His economic team was against it, with the exception of Christina Roemer, who got outmaneuvered by Summers.

Harry Reid was holding strong against the republicans and Obama pressured him to cut a deal with McConnell and Lieberman, or some other conservadem.

[bigdarryl]

3. she's right Summers never should have been in his administration

[FrenchieCat]

4. Rinse and repeat....cause incessant repetition makes perfect.....

Perhaps we can find you a street corner near a voting station
to yell that from come Tuesday. Oh, and make sure to bring a sign!
After all, I'm sure you'll be as useful as ever doing that, as you have been here.

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. I stopped reading at "seem"

The usual bullshit speculative nonsense from Ms. Huffington.

We get it. She's very upset that Obama is President. We know already.

Basta.

[Hekate]

36. I stopped reading at "Arianna"

It's too much to hope that she should only stfu, isn't it?

[Baltoman991]

6. Ah yes,

the know all be all Huffington who doesn't give a shit about facts. She's just the internet version of Fox News. The HuffingtonPost has become nothing but a "voice" for all things to hate about Obama.

But hey, I'm sure it pleased you to know end to find this article and run right here so your friends who missed another Obama bashing could catch up.

[Skittles]

9. it is worse than that

in his mind, they are not mistakes

[impik]

15. Hang in there. The road to a much better world

starts next Tuesday and ends in 2012, when so many people of left will get exactly what they deserve: A new Bush administration.

[Skittles]

23. that meme is SO fucking tired

the fact that repukes would do worse (A GIVEN TO ANY THINKING PERSON) does *NOT* negate the fact that Democrats could have, and SHOULD HAVE, done *MUCH* better

[Hekate]

37. That meme is going to be a lot more tired when it happens for real

Just sayin'

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. Arianna the armchair expect?

[madmax]

11. Arianna, Dahling - please STFU - just for now. nt

I'll be happy to read all this after Nov. 2. Thank you, and don't forget we much do lunch, soon. buhbye

edit: can't spell

[texastoast]

12. Arianna is an independent

And with regard to the economy, she sounds more like the pump-and-dump gold hawkers I read with regard to the economy. So far, the hawkers have not been able to explain why the stock market recently climbed back to over 11,000.

[impik]

14. This woman is he last person in the world hat i have any interest hearing from. Opportunist b*******

[and-justice-for-all]

19. I will kindly disagree with Arianna...nt

[ljm2002]

20. It's no wonder he doesn't learn from his mistakes...

...since, according to his supporters, he never makes any.

[FrenchieCat]

21. Well according to you, it is obvious that everyone else is perfect!

Isn't Arianna just perfect always and simply dreamy? :loveya:

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[depakid]

25. Maybe you could cite us some examples to support the case?

instead of casting aspersions.

Generally makes for more productive discussion.

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[depakid]

29. In other words, you really don't have a case to present in rebuttal to the OP

and so can only resort to insulting characterizations of other posters.

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[depakid]

33. I guess that's proof enough that you don't have a rebuttal

btw: Krugman's been saying much the same thing as Arianna in some of his columns and posts.

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. Ah yes. Arianna. Didn't she run for governor or something?

I guess it's true. "Those who can, DO. Those who can't, CRITIQUE.", or something to that effect.

[playstation]

28. "pun intended"

[Blasphemer]

47. Yes, she undermined her point by quoting an obvious joke. nt

[Akoto]

30. Hi, Arianna? The 'heckuva job' thing was a joke. Obama said pun intended. n/t

[Baltoman991]

32. Tis why I said

earlier, he website has become nothing but an online version of Fox News. Distort what is said to get a dig in and watch as the rest of the Obama bashers high five her.

[onehandle]

43. No it wasn't. He was being serious. 'Pun intended' was him covering up the phrase.

And I don't mean covering it up, as if it was the same situation with Bush where Bush was clearly lying. Obama truly thinks Summers did a good job and used that phrase. He was not thinking of the Brownie incident. He said 'pun intended' to fold it into Jon's joke. Nothing wrong with that. Just a little slip.

Watch it again.

[Beacool]

34. Your wife cringed?

I started laughing. Same phrase was used by two presidents to describe the performance of two staffers who the majority of people would consider failed miserably at their jobs. Just shows you that political tone deafness crosses party lines.

:7

[DFLforever]

35. Poor Arianna

Whatever she had to say, she ran out of a long time ago.

[Hekate]

38. Ah but she says nothing so wittily and with a charming Greek accent!

:evilgrin:

[Fruittree]

39. I'm sorry, I try not to be negative but after years now of

reading her headlines - I've come to the conclusion that while I may agree with the overall politics of the HP - she's an idiot.

[asjr]

40. i wish I could buy Arianna for what she is worth

and sell her for what she thinks she is worth. I do not like that woman and haven't for a long time.

[CTLawGuy]

41. i love how she criticizes him for failing to "effectively communicate

his accomplishments." With no help from you or the other so called "progressive media", Arianna. According to you, he has no accomplishments, just utter failures, because he didn't get 100% of what you wanted.

[Azathoth]

44. +1

People like Arianna are beyond shame.

[Igel]

45. Most bits of the "progressive media" that I read disagree.

They don't say Obama has no accomplishments. They rail against milquetoast, incomplete, insufficient accomplishments while condemning developments that they really oppose. In other words, those media outlets, run by individuals and corporations (non-profit or otherwise) have their own agendas for how they use their resources, they maintain and independent ideological and political line.

What's needed, it would seem, is a Party organ. One that will toe the party's political line, against which politics progressive views can be judged to be correct or incorrect. Note that I find "party organ" in English to be mildly obscene, constantly having the thought that there are quite a few party organs already out and about; at least in Russian "organ" can't mean "dick," although Russian-speakers had the same humorous possibility with Party "members" (chleny; of course, we can make the same Stewartesque quips).

Of course, most Democrats would quickly be deemed politically incorrect in their views. There'd be constant problems with determining if the government should be putting out such an organ at all, or only when there's a (D) president in the White House.

As I keep telling my kid: When things don't go 100% his way, he acts as though they've gone entirely the wrong way. I have to constantly remind him that between those two poles lie most of the possibilities, and 50% of them aren't really all that bad.

[Aramchek]

48. I guess you and your wife are not smart enough to comprehend humor

but that goes a long way to explain your postings around here.

[firedupdem]

49. yeah, he's incapable of learning....he's inferior ya know....

fuck arianna

[Phx_Dem]

50. Fuck off, Arianna. Not everyone is a hater like you.