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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:38 PM
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Nuremberg Revisited: Obama Administration Files To Dismiss Case Against John Yoo
John Yoo is being defended in court this month by the Administration. Not the Bush Administration. The Obama Administration. As with the lawsuits over electronic surveillance and torture, the Obama administration wants the lawsuit against Yoo dismissed and is defending the right of Justice Department officials to help establish a torture program — an established war crime. I will be discussing the issue on this segment of MSNBC Countdown.

The Obama Administration has filed a brief that brushes over the war crimes aspects of Yoo’s work at the Justice Department. Instead, it insists that attorneys must be free to give advice — even if it is to establish a torture program.

In its filing before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, the Justice Department insists that there is “the risk of deterring full and frank advice regarding the military’s detention and treatment of those determined to be enemies during an armed conflict.” Instead it argues that the Justice Department has other means to punish lawyers like the Office of Professional Responsibility. Of course, the Bush Administration effectively blocked such investigations and Yoo is no longer with the Justice Department. The OPR has been dismissed as ineffectual, including in an ABA Journal, as the Justice Department’s “roach motel”—“the cases go in, but nothing ever comes out.”

The Justice Department first defended Yoo as counsel and then paid for private counsel to represent him (here). His public-funded private counsel is Miguel Estrada, who was forced to withdraw his nomination by George Bush for the Court of Appeals after strong opposition from the Democrats.

Yoo is being sued by Jose Padilla, who was effectively blocked in contesting his abusive confinement and mistreatment as part of this criminal case and in a habeas action. The Bush Administration brought new charges to moot a case before the Supreme Court could rule. The Court previously sent his case back on a technicality.

It is important to note that the Administration did not have to file this brief since it had withdrawn as counsel and paid for Yoo’s private counsel. It has decided that it wants to establish the law claimed by the Bush Administration protecting Justice officials who support alleged war crimes. They are effectively doubling down by withdrawing as counsel and then reappearing as a non-party amicus.

The Obama Administration has gutted the hard-fought victories in Nuremberg where lawyers and judges were often guilty of war crimes in their legal advice and opinions. The third of the twelve trials for war crimes involved 16 German jurists and lawyers. Nine had been officials of the Reich Ministry of Justice, the others were prosecutors and judges of the Special Courts and People’s Courts of Nazi Germany. It would have been a larger group but two lawyers committed suicide before trial: Adolf Georg Thierack, former minister of justice, and Carl Westphal, a ministerial counsellor.

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http://jonathanturley.org/2009/12/09/obama-administration-files-to-dismiss-case-against-john-yoo/
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:42 PM
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1. Sick to my stomach. n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:43 PM
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2. This isn't Kansas, Toto. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:47 PM
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3. This administration seems bound and determined to go down in disgrace
and if the pattern (on this front and others) continues at the DOJ- they'll succeed "brilliantly."
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:47 PM
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4. Fits in with what this administration is doing
Justifying, validating, and furthering the despicable actions of the Bu$h administration.

HELLO MR. PRESIDENT -- THIS ISN'T WHAT CHANGE LOOKS LIKE.

Change would be doing the RIGHT thing and prosecuting this sick, twisted fuck and the bullshit he stands for.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:47 PM
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5. Where are the f**king GOPers now, who whined during the Clinton impeachment...
..."How do I tell my 10-year-old son/grandson the President lied...boohoo, boohoo...sob, sob

How do I tell my 11-year-old son, "You can rape women and sodomize children to extract "confessions" and not be held accountable."

How do I tell him that?
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:49 PM
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6. DON'T DO IT OBAMA
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 05:51 PM by HowHasItComeToThis
ALL OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE JAILED.

AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SHOULD BE EXPOSED AS THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION THAT IT IS.

THEY DON'T WANT OUR DEMOCRACY TO WORK.

http://site.pfaw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=rww_in_focus_new_mccarthyism
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:01 PM
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7. "It is important to note that the Administration did not have to file this brief..."
They just had some free time on their hands at the office, while they wait on the paperwork regarding the Massachussetts suit to overturn DOMA... and they wanted to "stay in shape" in the meantime, so they'd be ready to defend DOMA.

This was just a little "reach across the aisle"... so the administration could give the Right another hand job.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:26 PM
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8. The Nuremberg trials were not civil suits, so Turley's analogy fails.
Nothing in this brief suggests that Yoo could not face criminal conspiracy charges.
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Ildem09 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:32 PM
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9. Where are the Cheerleaders?
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 06:34 PM by Ildem09
awaiting Rahmbo's talking points. I voted for Obama because I bought into the Hope and Change Bull.. I'm giving him 3 years to change my mind.... Change it for the love of God
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:03 PM
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10. Fucking. Disgusting.
:grr:
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