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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:04 PM
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TPM: Boehner Blasts Dems' 'Chickencrap' Tax Cut Vote Gambit (Awesome move, Dems!)
Boehner Blasts Dems' 'Chickencrap' Tax Cut Vote Gambit
Brian Beutler | December 2, 2010, 12:43PM

This afternoon, House Democrats will hold an up or down vote on vote on President Obama's plan to extend tax cuts to income below $250,000, and they've figured out a way to prevent the Republicans from pulling procedural tricks that might sink it -- a straight vote on whether or not wealthy people deserve an additional tax break. Today, at his weekly press conference, House Minority Leader John Boehner compared the move to fertilizer.

"I'm trying to catch my breath so I don't refer to this maneuver going on today as chickencrap, alright?' Boehner said. "But this is nonsense."

Brace yourself for some procedural jargon: Dems once believed they were faced with two mixed options for holding this vote. The first was to hold an up-or-down vote under the normal rules. But that would give Republicans the opportunity to introduce what's known as a motion to recommit -- a procedural right of the minority that would have allowed them to tack an extension of tax cuts for high-income earners on to the legislation.

The second option -- suspending the rules -- would have foreclosed on that right, but would have required a two-thirds majority of the House for passage: 290 votes, an impossible hurdle.

But Democrats figured out a way to avoid this. They're attaching their tax cut plan as an amendment to a separate bill . That legislation already passed the House, and has just been returned from the Senate. The rules say it can't be recommitted. So the GOP's hands are tied.

"The election was month ago," Boehner said. "We're 23 months from the next election and the political games have already started trying to set up the next election."

"To roll this vote out really is just -- it's what you think I was going to say anyway." In other words, "chickencrap."

more...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/boehner-blasts-dems-chickencrap-majority-rules-tax-cut-gambit-1.php?ref=fpa
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:07 PM
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1. thumbs up to Nancy Pelosi!
keep it up, guys.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:21 PM
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15. No, no, we should get rid of Pelosi because the Republicans hate her!
:eyes:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:07 PM
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2. Cry me a river, Boner
Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 01:42 PM by rocktivity
NO, NO--WAIT! THAT'S JUST AN EXPRESSION!



:rofl:
rocktivity
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:11 PM
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3. That means it is going to work. Go Dems.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:23 PM
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7. Since this is budget related it can pass the senate through reconciliation?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:18 PM
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4. It takes a shithead to recognize chickencrap.
:)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:18 PM
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5. Thrilled to K&R this
When the weeping, orange Boehner bleats, that means we got something right. :evilgrin:
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:21 PM
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6. oh, yeah : )
:evilgrin:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:31 PM
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8. And why couldn't this couldn't have been done before?
On any of a number of other important pieces of legislation?
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:34 PM
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19. from the article:
"But Democrats figured out a way to avoid this. They're attaching their tax cut plan as an amendment to a separate bill . That legislation already passed the House, and has just been returned from the Senate. The rules say it can't be recommitted. So the GOP's hands are tied."

I am guessing it isn't every day that they have a bill with these attributes that has just returned from the Senate.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 04:06 PM
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22. But...
we have the same House, Senate and White House as before the election. If we had a coordinated leadership, this could have been done before the election and we could have used middle class tax cuts as a campaign tool and perhaps lost fewer seats.

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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:07 PM
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23. Perhaps - but then again
we don't really know how the timing worked out... maybe they tried? Maybe Pelosi knew she wouldn't have the votes before the election? Heck, maybe some clerk just discovered that there was language in this particular bill preventing the recommit and realized its potential? Who knows.... I just know I'm glad to see the aggressiveness on this - hope the Senate can figure something out to get it through their Chamber.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:32 PM
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9. The only bad part
The Middle Class is an endangered species. This will help some, but others will be down here in steerage with the rest of us.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:36 PM
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10. Evidently, this wasn't "at the top of Bo(eh)ner's list"
"We're 23 months from the next election and the political games have already started trying to set up the next election." Imagine that, political games being played in Washington. Who'da thunk it?

What an ass.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:37 PM
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11. chicken crap is excellent for growing things-
but I wouldn't expect Boehner to know that. It's a potent fertilizer and is best put on in the winter for spring growth.
I think we should use it liberally right now.

:hi:
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 01:43 PM
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12. Good!
Get them all on record, blue dogs included, and when the next election comes around use their NO vote, if they are brave enough to vote no, against them! Democrats need to get out on all the TV talks shows they can and point out every NO vote to help the middle class, and how those same NO votes are refusing to extend unemployment benefits for those who really need it, unless it's PAID for, yet are willing to increase the deficit by 700 billion for the rich people tax cuts, but they don't have to PAY for those cuts!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:06 PM
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13. "The election was month ago," Yes Boner, but this Congress was elected 2 years ago, so
shot the fuck up and eat your chickenshit and vote against tax cuts!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:07 PM
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14. Nancy, Nancy, I forgive you for not impeaching that sonofabitch, if you pull this off. nt
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:21 PM
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16. Finally getting some balls and doing something... you know it's working when the GOP freaks
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:22 PM
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17. Has he started crying?
Real classy guy, this Boehner guy is. :eyes: :puke:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:34 PM
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18. No but the R's are whining like stuck pigs having to vote on extension of only middle class taxcuts!
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 03:01 PM
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21. They're getting the vapors over THAT???
Oh the horror!!!!! :eyes:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:47 PM
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20. the Tan-man cometh....with tears in his eyes -- and the Corp. Media weeps in stereo
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 12:47 AM
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24. How eloquent.
Chickencrap??
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