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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 01:59 PM
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Obama to the Troops "When so many of our institutions are shirking THEIR responsablity..."
In our time, in this 21st Century, when so many other institutions seem to be shirking THEIR responsibilities, you've embraced yours. You've shown why the United States military remains the most trusted institution in America."

Gee .... wonder who THAT was about!!!?





Well, at least SOMEONE has his back.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:01 PM
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1. Good grief, it's their job to "have his back" - you think they don't know...
...how ridiculous the wars are, that they don't want to come home?
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:05 PM
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4. Nobody pays them to stand there and take thousands of pics of
their CiC who came to see them. Some things you can't fake. Like the smiles on their faces when he shakes their hands. Give it a rest.
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displacedvermoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:55 PM
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13. What were your views when Shrub showed up with the fake
turkey. The troops cheered then too, as this is what the troops do. It is up the Commander in Chief to see that the loyalty of his troops is not taken advantage of, and that their sacrifices are not wasted.

Ten fucking years of war, and little to nothing of value gained. Our economy ravaged, our people told their social security and health care safety nets must be sacrificed to war costs.

Not sure what to say any more.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:32 PM
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22. Not fake
Decorative. And, IIRC, there were claims it was eventually eaten.

But "decorative" was interpreted to mean "fake," and "fake turkey" meant "plastic." It's the kiddy game of telephone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/11/weekinreview/c-corrections-271020.html?scp=1&sq=incorrectly+turkey+real+baghdad&st=nyt

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/04/politics/main586761.shtml

Repeating an error is to repeat the error, however beloved the error may be.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:06 PM
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5. the wars Obama started on a whim, right??
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:20 PM
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17. No, the ones he's carried on in a calculated fashion.
Those ones.
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displacedvermoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:44 PM
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18. Very nice
and welcome aboard!
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 07:23 PM
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19. Thank you
:hi:
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:13 PM
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8. "Their's not to reason why, Their's but to do and die ...."
Tennyson's "Charge of the Light Brigade" in one of the stupider battles in history, rivaling General Custer's. It was in the Crimea, stemming from an argument over whether the Catholics or Protestants should guard the holy land.

All wars are more stupid than intelligent.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:20 PM
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10. Good quote. I always think of that Dylan line...
..."only a pawn in their game" - though that song is about poor white men.

Even the photo ops seem like using the soldiers as pawns.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:33 PM
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11. Well
The Crimean war was really about whether Russia would have access to warmwater ports, which would have essentially meant the end of the British Empire.

The fiasco at Balaclava happened because Lucan and Cardigan were too busy pissing on each other to confirm what Raglan's directive actually was.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 04:58 AM
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24. Shirking responsibility
as he speaks to the 101st Airborne that is being deployed for the 4th time in 7 years.
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:15 PM
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9. Why do want the troops to hate him? Very strange.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:44 PM
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12. Hilarious. You're doing what right wingers used to do
Attributing your attitude to the troops, en masse.

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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:01 PM
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2. Hurray!!
Clio I just wanted you to know your posts always light up my political outlook.


I <3 the effort you put in.

:toast:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:10 PM
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7. Thanks but this is easy and I'm a coward....
..... folks like these are the real heroes.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:02 PM
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3. Ha! Boner ought to love that one.
Hell yes they're shirking their responsibilities on the right side of the aisle.

Way to go Mr. President. Kick some ass.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:07 PM
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6. What good is going to come of the sacrifices? What is the point of this war?
n/t
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:49 PM
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14. Perhaps he can reflect on some of his own responsibilities.
The President's responsibilities include:

he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article02/">U.S. Constitution: Article II: Section 3


What isn't in the Constitution: "look forward, not backward". That famous phrase was an admission by Obama that he intended to shirk his responsibility, one that he swore a solemn oath to fulfill. And now we're learning that he didn't just mean to not get around to it. He meant to be and was proactive in making sure the law did not get faithfully executed.



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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:14 PM
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21. Is this about torture? Here's another reference:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002340----000-.html

The defense was laid, ahead of time: That prolonged mental harm was not a result of the EIT used, and that safety precautions were actually taken to prevent any prolonged injury from occurring.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:52 PM
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15. "You are protecting your country. You are achieving your objective. You will succeed . . . "
0 for 3.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 07:29 PM
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20. Ouch
Sad but true
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:56 PM
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16. yay team!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:37 PM
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23. Yeah, Obama should have just told them they suck and are all murderers
and that he was disbanding the DoD and the Armed Forces and establishing a Department of Peace, headed by Dennis Kucinich.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 03:55 PM
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27. yeah, you should mix a little grey in your life because i don't do black or white..
maybe you agreed with bush when he said you're either with us or agin us, but i try to live a life that isn't ruled by binary decisions. peace out.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:12 AM
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25. He should have leveled with them
and told them what they were really risking their lives for.

From hundreds of diplomatic cables, Afghanistan emerges as a looking-glass land where bribery, extortion and embezzlement are the norm and the honest official is a distinct outlier.

Describing the likely lineup of Afghanistan’s new cabinet last January, the American Embassy noted that the agriculture minister, Asif Rahimi, “appears to be the only minister that was confirmed about whom no allegations of bribery exist.”

snip//

The cables describe a country where everything is for sale. The Transportation Ministry collects $200 million a year in trucking fees, but only $30 million is turned over to the government, according to a 2009 account to diplomats by Wahidullah Shahrani, then the commerce minister. As a result, “individuals pay up to $250,000 for the post heading the office in Herat, for example, and end up owning beautiful mansions as well as making lucrative political donations,” said Mr. Shahrani, who also identified 14 of Afghanistan’s governors as “bad performers and/or corrupt.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/world/asia/03wikileaks-corruption.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=global-home


and

In one incident in October 2009 the then vice-president, Ahmad Zia Massoud, was questioned in Dubai when he flew into the emirate with $US52 million in cash, one diplomatic report states.

Mr Massoud was detained by officials from the US and the United Arab Emirates trying to stop money laundering. But he was let go without explaining where the money came from.

Another memo written by the US diplomat in Kabul noted how many officials owned lavish properties overseas, suggesting "these individuals are extracting as much wealth as possible while conditions permit".

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-takes-cut-of-donations-by-allies-to-afghanistan-20101203-18jut.html


We and the soldiers are being played for suckers, and photo ops like this play an important part in continuing that scam.
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