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Sun Dec-05-10 11:03 AM
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Wyden: "I'd be willing to go along with a one-year extension so we can protect the middle class." |
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Here - http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/05/senators-offer-different-timetables-for-tax-cuts/In other "news", scumbag McConnell says "We've had more conversations in the last two weeks than we've had in the last two years and I think that's a good sign - a growing awareness that the power is going to be more symmetrical in the next Congress. And I'm optimistic we'll be able to come together." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40517039/ns/politics/
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:06 AM
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1. On paper, I agree, especially if it gets unemployment reinstated, but we know |
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full well what will happen in a year's time. We can't trust them.
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:11 AM
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2. It's like the 2008 election didn't even happen. n/t |
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:55 AM
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9. McCain was going to immediate cut spending across the board except for military |
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You are naive if you think it would be just the same or better under a president McCain and a GOP house and senate. I can guarantee all of SS would now be in the stock markets.
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Sun Dec-05-10 01:09 PM
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14. and kittens dead by the millions! |
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thankfully none of that happened!
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:11 AM
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3. Republicans' idea of compromise is along the lines of |
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Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 11:12 AM by LibDemAlways
"My way or the highway." McConnell means, "As long as Obama caves, we'll be fine."
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:16 AM
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4. He's a closet Republican! |
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:sarcasm:
Thank you Ron for putting the unemployed before partisan politics. :fistbump:
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:24 AM
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5. I'm thinking this is a "done deal" in principle. |
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The questions are over how long the temporary extension will be for.
Brace yourself for much wailing and gnashing of teeth here and in other progressive outlets. Sucks the way it's played out BUT ... in the end, this outcome is the best of those available (in terms of tax policy AND other legislative initiatives that will move forward).
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:24 AM
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6. That will not be a popular position for Wyden at home |
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Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 11:25 AM by Bluenorthwest
But he just got reelcted so the will of the People of Oregon is not all that important at this point on the timeline.
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:29 AM
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7. Do you think the people of Oregon would rather see all tax cuts expire... |
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including those for the middle class, and no extension of unemployment insurance, rather than see a temporary extension on cuts for those over 250k?
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Sun Dec-05-10 01:10 PM
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The tax cuts for the middle class are a pittance and they do not stimulate. They are a failed policy and they need to go away. Extending them for a few months worth of unemployment does permanent damage to the economy for temporary gain.
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Sun Dec-05-10 05:44 PM
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18. Yes. The unemployed here want jobs. And tax cuts of a few |
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hundred bucks? Do you seriously think that sort of 'cut' makes a difference? Of course, earners like the Wyden family will save six figures, so sweet for him, and explains it all.
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:51 AM
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8. I just wish they'd be honest about it though... |
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It's not a temporary extension. It's not going to be a temporary extension. They (the republicans) will never, ever, ever allow it to expire and the democrats are never, ever, ever going to stand up to the Republicans on it.. It's going to be permanent even if it's permanent by default of being re-extended every year or every two years.
At least be honest about it. It sucks either way, but it's the disingenuousness of it all that makes it twice as galling. I'm ready to swallow the bitter pill of the upper class tax cuts being extended "permanently", but what will sicken me is the Democrats acting like it's some sort of victory that they got rolled yet again and also that they won't take any and every opportunity to point out the blatant hypocricy of thought (or lack of thought) that led to this end result (that being increasing the deficit through tax cuts for the rich, but having had to give up practically everything just to get unemployment extensions so they are "deficit neutral").
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Sun Dec-05-10 11:56 AM
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10. Does that make Wyden a republican by DU standards? |
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Sun Dec-05-10 01:07 PM
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13. and next year? "I'd be willing to go along ..." |
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Sun Dec-05-10 01:21 PM
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16. The gov't needs that money, if only to help bail out the states |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/us/politics/05states.html?_r=1&ref=usThe good news about one year is Obama can try again next December to take a stand. A two-year extension effectively makes him a well-intentioned guardian of supply-side economics.
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Sun Dec-05-10 05:24 PM
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17. You just KNOW they are lying when they say things like that. |
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..."We're doing this to protect the Middle Class or the Taxpayers."
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