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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:33 PM
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12/06/2010 - The Day Liberal Progressives started caring about the Deficit....
01/20/09 - The Day Conservatives started caring about the Deficit.

At some point, everyone comes around.
America is once again UNITED! :patriot:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:42 PM
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1. Tax cuts add to the deficit!
Spending on the stimuls adds to the deficit!


Everyone agrees, Deficit bad; President Bad.

WE ARE FAMILY!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:45 PM
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2. Oh please. You'll be a deficit hawk when the Catfood austerity measures are proposed
:eyes:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:32 PM
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21. Eat your cat food and be grateful
we got you an upgrade from hampster pellets. :spank:
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:47 PM
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3. Liberal Democrats have been SCREAMING about the deficit for years.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 02:48 PM by Milo_Bloom
Half of Howard Dean's campaign was about fiscal conservation.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:48 PM
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4. Shhh.....Don't bring up inconvenient facts. eom
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:33 PM
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22. know what's interesting? The OP thinks she's helping Obama
:rofl:

not helping! :bounce:
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:52 PM
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5. Howard Dean made the deficit an issue in 2004...
...when he was running for president. At that time, GWBush's two wars were raising the deficit to then record levels. Dean is known as a liberal but he's always been a pretty solid deficit hawk.

But as you point out, the GOP wasn't concerned about the deficit then. And as we all remember, Dick Cheney was arguing then that deficits don't matter.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 02:58 PM
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6. He's not a progressive. He's a fiscal conservative (his words).
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:00 PM
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7. No True Scotsman.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:00 PM
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8. Tax cuts aren't fiscally conservative, it's fiscally stupid.
It's a fiscal disaster.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:13 PM
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18. Tell that to Dean who aired commercials claiming the opposite. See below
In Iowa and New Hampshire, his campaign is airing a commercial promoting Dean as a "fiscal conservative who cut state income taxes -- twice."

On the campaign's website, Dean is even more specific, saying that his two cuts reduced the state's top income tax rate from 13.5 percent to 9.5 percent.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/12/07/deans_tax_claims_bring_skepticism/
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:08 PM
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14. Not mutually exclusive.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:14 PM
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19. Again, "his words." Dean said his tax cuts made him a fiscal conservative.
In Iowa and New Hampshire, his campaign is airing a commercial promoting Dean as a "fiscal conservative who cut state income taxes -- twice."

On the campaign's website, Dean is even more specific, saying that his two cuts reduced the state's top income tax rate from 13.5 percent to 9.5 percent.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/12/07/deans_tax_claims_bring_skepticism/
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:28 PM
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25. Again, not mutually exclusive.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:01 PM
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9. Now you are misrepresenting liberals...pretty low
many liberals were concerned that the deficit would crowd out spending for people.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:11 PM
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17. Yeah, the true Republican platform - drown the govt in the bathtub
Norquist said that a decade ago. I swear, DU is loading up with a lot of the same people who have no grasp of facts or history, just like FR.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:49 PM
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24. Yep.
And, it pisses me off mightily that the Democrats are, once again, aiding and abetting it.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:02 PM
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10. Republicans never really cared about deficits it's all about power and money to their people.
We started caring about the deficit since 2001 when Bush started these damn tax cuts in the first place.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:06 PM
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12. Ahhh-men!
craigmatic
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:04 PM
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11. Which liberal progressives supported the Bush tax cuts?
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:07 PM
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13. Bullshit. Where have you been for the last few decades?
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 03:28 PM by kysrsoze
Remember when people used to complain about defense spending, like thousands of redundant warheads, the B1-B and $1,000.00 hammers? Didn't think so.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:10 PM
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15. ROFL
:rofl:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:11 PM
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16. K&R
:kick:
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:20 PM
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20. I have been concerned about the deficit since Ross Perot n/t
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:47 PM
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23. It's not the deficit I'm concerned about.
It's how it's going to be dealt with. Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, government agencies, like the National Park Service, the EPA, the Bureau of Indian Affairs, NASA, the Dept. of Education, etc., will continue to be gutted when the republicans controlled all of the government. Federal employees will not get deserved COL raises--if they keep their jobs in the first place. And, new jobs won't be created.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:42 PM
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26. it's refreshing to see someone so willing to put their absolute ignorance on display..
for all to see. bravo!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 06:15 PM
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27. Liberals just now started worrying...
about the deficit? Where the hell have you been. It is one of the main arguments for ending these 2 extremely stupid wars. Of course, we can't do that- we will just raise retirement age and find some poor people to screw over.
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