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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:28 AM
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Poll: 81 percent of Democrats want Lieberman punished!
Add me to the list of people who want him punished! He should have been punished a long time ago!!

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More than 80 percent of Democrats say they believe Sen. Joe Lieberman should be stripped of his chairmanship in the Senate if he ends up supporting a Republican filibuster of health care reform.
According to the Huffington Post, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Democracy for America ordered a study a few days ago, in which they polled over 800 voters.
The main question in the poll was whether Lieberman - an Independent who usually caucuses with the Democrats - should lose his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. 81 percent of Democrats responded that they think he should lose that chairmanship should he sustain a health care reform filibuster . One contributing factor to the high number of Democrats who wish Lieberman punished is that this is not the first time he has gone against the Democratic leadership since they took back power. During the 2008 Presidential campaign, Lieberman openly campaigned for Senator John McCain. Only 10 percent of Democrats said there should be no punishment, and only nine percent said they weren't sure.

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http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283820
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:30 AM
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1. Then it's even money
he'll be somehow promoted.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:30 AM
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2. My fantasy scenario involves the inexplicable assault by a pterodactyl,
but one with an ancient raw hunger and extraordinarily sharp claws.

And teeth. Real big teeth. Biggest teeth you ever saw.

I'm talkin' really big teeth.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:31 AM
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12. Sounds good to me, saltpoint.
Although I was thinking Hadrosaur so he could be gummed to death.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:25 AM
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45. "...gummed to death." LOLOL!
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:23 PM
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34. There's one in Cardiff you could lure over to do the job
It really likes chocolate. Dark chocolate especially.

:evilgrin:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:31 AM
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3. I don't believe in punishment - and anyway accepting "punishment"
is by consent of the punished, otherwise it's just oppression.

No, we need Lieberman to remind us what's wrong with the political system. Don't punish him, fix the system. We need a strong party willing to officially disbar membership, and well before said DINO becomes a liability.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:38 AM
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16. Don't think of it as punishment, think of it as aversive conditioning.
When Capo Joe does something harmful to the Democrats, we should be exposing him to unpleasant negative stimuli, such as deprivation of committee chairmanships.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:42 AM
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17. totally agree there
but I also think that while he was a member of the democratic party he should have been censured or otherwise expelled. Can't we come up with something like a "dishonorable discharge" of our own?

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:45 AM
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18. We did in 2006.
He got primaried, and thus is no longer an actual member of the Democratic Party.

Too bad that SOB is still in the Senate...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:56 AM
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20. Oh, he'd be there to remind us -
It's just that he, as a non-Democrat, would not hold a chairmanship that belongs to a Democrat with the Democratic majority.

If quisling turncoat independents become the majority he'd be welcome to take back those chairs.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:31 AM
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4. Can you imagine what the GOP would do with someone like him??? (nt)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:33 AM
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5. Can a caucus kick someone out?
(Against their will?)

And what are the ramifications of doing so?

hmmmm.....
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:36 AM
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6. Not only should be he be stripped of his chairmanships, he should basically need to
beg Harry Reid in order to present any legislation ever. We should party line vote to stop him from speaking whenever possible. He should be made an example of. You campaign against our president, you stop important legislation, you abandon the party when we need you---you will hurt dearly. Make him a no one, the Senator from somewhere far away who does nothing and represents no one. Maybe the state will rid us of him once he is worthless to them. CT, step up and get rid of the worthless Senator.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:37 AM
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7. The only Dems that matter are Connecticut Dems. They have to vote him out!
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:37 AM by pnwmom
I wonder if a recall election is a possibility in CT.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:39 AM
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8. There's no such thing for the Senate
only the Senate itself, can kick him out once he's elected. He's to nasty to just croak.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:54 PM
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40. No recall here and he was voted in with more Repub support then Dem support here.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:56 AM
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9. In my insomniac braindead state I read this headline as.....
81 percent of Democrats want Lieberman punched! :rofl:

Must have been the Berlusconi thing?
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:27 AM
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10. LOL
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:28 AM
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11. NOT ME!!
i want him to die in a fire.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:35 AM
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14. LOLZ
Yeah.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:32 AM
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13. Pie in the face, at least? nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:37 AM
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15. Time to take Kapo Joe out of the leadership.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 10:41 AM by backscatter712
After all, if Lieberman had been born a couple of generations earlier and ended up in a Nazi concentration camp, he would be one of the "kapos" selling out and kicking around his fellow Jews in exchange for an extra piece of moldy bread.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:50 AM
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19. Can't. The Math won't allow that to happen.
Best case is unseating him in 2012. Conn. better get its act together to get that guy out of the Senate. He does not represent his state.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:58 AM
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21. Recommended, though this is just more evidence, that we are not a democracy--or even a republic.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 10:58 AM by Vidar
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:03 AM
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22. +1
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:14 PM
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23. Someone should smash him in the face with a pot metal statue of liberty.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:20 PM
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24. and probably 90% of us connecticut democrats!
remember, we voted for ned lamont!

lieberman is only there because he got 90% of the REPUBLICAN vote!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:16 PM
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28. Thanks for that reminder ~
"Lil Joey needs to take a long vacation ~ did all the Democrats sit on their hands or are there way more Rebulicans in that state? :shrug:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:29 PM
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29. it's a rich state, but it's still new england. there are more ds than rs
the overwhelming republican vote plus most of the independents was enough for lieberman.



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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:35 PM
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25. Pretty obvious by now that Dem "leaders" don't give a shit what voters want. nt
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:55 PM
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26. "Independent" is an insult. He is bought and paid for. nt
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:58 PM
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27. Berlusconi-d. What a freak. nt
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:59 PM
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30. should have been done long ago
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:05 PM
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31. Obama and Reid showed nothing but LAUGHABLE weakness in 2008-09
by coddling Liebermann.

It must have brought amused him to no end to recognize that he was being treated precisely as the Israeli government treats their own fringe elements in the Knesset.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:08 PM
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32. I do too! but somehow I would never have thought that this poll would show anything different.
What did they do--poll their membership?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:13 PM
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33. How bad is the chairmanship stripping?
He can't be unelected.

He could be held up to the public as the obstructer though. Oh wait, the M$M won't bother.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:24 PM
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35. I want Lieberman embalmed!
Even though that violates Jewish law, or because of it.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:24 PM
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36. Big Bets that Democrats Cave (again) and nothing comes of it ... I'm all in...
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:27 PM
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37. Which means Reid will probably step down and appoint him majority leader.
Never underestimate the ability of elected Democrats to do exactly the opposite of what the vast majority of rank-and-file Democrafts want. Especially in the Senate.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:06 PM
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38. 81%? That's all? I thought there were so many more rightwing Dems?
Oh right, the DLC clowns and their associates are the minority, but they holler just like Republicans, so they get the grease and the big corporate paychecks too.

And the independent number was unexpectedly high to me. Interesting it is, though I am aware I's vote with us most of the time.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:38 PM
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39. 19% say pls sir may i have another
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:55 PM
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41. i still remember a few prominent DUers pimping for holy joe back in '06
over lamont; the guy who was the actual party primary winner...(bittersweet, but i think the last round of bannings the past couple of months purged the last of them)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:55 PM
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42. Worong, 100% Of real Democrats Want him Punished. 19% Were repblicans
who lied and said they were Dems.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:57 PM
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43. Hopefully he WILL be punished...after HCR passes. n/t
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:04 PM
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44. 1. Strip him of his Homeland Securtiy Chairmanship,
and 2. Threaten to put through an even more liberal bill---like Medicare for All----via reconciliation if the corporate Democrats don't knock it off.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:43 AM
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46. Take it away regardless. It's obvious he's a Republican with our chairmanships.
He will never support our policies.
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:49 AM
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47. At this point a Lieberman cerebral hemmorage would be nice
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:55 AM
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48. make him look in the mirror for his waking hours - that oughta punish him

god knows it punishes the mirrors
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