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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:05 PM Original message |
Democratic presidents and the left |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. But Clinton never obviously and regularly had his subordinates |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You're incorrectly assuming that the extreme left is his base |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Perhaps so but after yesterday, I doubt it. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. You think middle class working Dems wanted their taxes to go up? nt |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Taxes have to go up |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Please!!! No talking point |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. With supply sider Democrats... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No one is being supply side |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. Yes. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Maybe but |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. So something that was a bad spending idea when we were running surpluses... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Don't dishonestly put words in my mouth |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What words did I put in your mouth? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Please you're doing it again. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. We agree... conditions have changed. No words in your mouth. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Because in the intervening 10 years |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. This doesn't change the underlying logic problem. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. There is no logic problem |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yes, there is a HUGE logic problem. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Why do you keep avoiding the logic problem? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Because there is no logic problem. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Now you are just being silly |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. So anyone that disagrees with you has bought into GOP talking points |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. When they can't answer a simple question... yes. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Why should anyone have to answer your BS questions? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. You are the only one changing the subject. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Well sorry that ordinary low and middle class people |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Gotta love the attempt to deflect.... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. You're the one deflecting. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. You gotta be kidding me. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No you're kidding yourself |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. So you are unable to answer the question? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. It's a BS question and you know it. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Once again.... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Once again no one has to answer your BS questions |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Didn't claim to be the king... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:58 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Not backed in to any corner, just not going to be bullied |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Being asked to answer a question is bullying now? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Yup that is exactly what you're trying to do |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Why can't you answer it? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Stop trying to bully me. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Being asked a question isn't bullying. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Being berated with a BS question is. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Then answer it, without the drama OR |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. This is called bullying and harassment. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. You have yet to prove the premise false... in fact, you proved it true. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. It is a false premise that I proved several times. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Where is this harassment taking place? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. You don't think cyberharrassment is real? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. No one is chasing you down.. or threatening you in any manner... thus, no harassment, except... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. What do you call what you are doing? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Responding to someone who keeps responding to me. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Please you admited it |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Choice D! I win again. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Yes this is all about you winning isn't it. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:18 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. It's about what is best for the country. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Yes keep telling yourself that. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. WooT! $40.00 and counting... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Good get it up there. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. If you answer the question honestly, I will donate $100 to the charity of YOUR CHOICE |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. But it is not an honest question. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. The question is real AND honest |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. No it is not and |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Choice D! I win again. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Yes it is all about you winning |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Choice D! I win again. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. So you don't care about the poor. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Of course I do. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Of course I do. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Please it all about winning to you. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Winning what is best for America. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. You just want to win for yourself |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Choice D! I win again. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. See you admit it is all about you winning. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. WooT! Choice D Again! |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. I love the movie "My Cousin Vinny" |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. I love choice D! |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. You know campaigns don't accept Monoploy money. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. DING DING DING.. You DID IT. You ANSWERED THE QUESTION!!! |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Once again you dishonestly put words in my mouth |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. No words in your mouth. Just the answer I was looking for. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. No you're the one who has to live with your own lies and delusions nt |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. I know you are, but what am I? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. But is the truth nt |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. There is no 5th tier for unemployment |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I didn't say there was. |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Is that what this is about? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. What is hypocritical? |
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jab105 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Good explanation of it! NT> |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
81. I am one of hie biggest supporters, |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. The left isn't 'extreme' |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Not everyone on the left |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Only extremists voice their displeasure on the left? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Never said that. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You implied it with this: |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I implied nothing |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. What are they extreme about? Specific issues please. eom |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. What are you stalking me across threads now? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. So are accusations like that. I clicked on ProSense's thread and you were here. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Ask someone on the extreme left. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Deleted message |
JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Don't play games |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You're accusing a lot of DUers of being "extreme leftists" and I'm asking you to clarify that. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I don't answer to you |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Don't worry, James. You're boring and you obviously don't have an answer. eom |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Buh-bye |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
108. There are authoritarian thinkers |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. You don't seem to answer anyone. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I don't answer strawman questions. nt |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
78. Funny things happen when they start moving goalposts. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. BINGO! The moderates are shoved aside by the left of the left. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The far left isn't necessarily his base--there are many progressives on the left |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. The left is the core of the Democratic base |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. No it is not and has never been |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. or at least be honest and switch parties |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Different prism |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They would have if he insulted them at a widely publicized Press Conference. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No, |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Repetition doesn't make you correct. They WOULD have reported a televised |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I still don't agree |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. The problem is that the left and Dem presidents have had problems for years |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. About Clinton: it's amazing again, how so many liberals have given him a pass |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. Charming Clinton anecdote. And we know how well NAFTA worked out. eom |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
31. K&R. What a great read. n/t |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. Clinton was worse than Obama is. At least Obama did HCR before abandoning the left. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. To many of us HCR was the beginning of the abandonment. |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Maybe but I don't see how people have more love for Clinton who ignored the party worse |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. So.. is the problem with the Left or the President. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
43. Clinton is why I supported Obama and not Hillary |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
48. The end is very telling. Klein is far from being a lefty and he understands where Obama clashes with |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
85. this is it about being a journo |
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