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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:08 AM
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Boston Globe - Young, alone, and homeless
In a climate where we are debating some help for the middle class and whether or not to extend tax cuts to the wealthy in order to help the middle class, I am always surprised by the silence when it comes to the very poor, including on sites like this one. Certainly, we dont want taxes to increase for those making $60 K a year, but what are we ready to do to help people like the ones described in this article, or for the 99ers who wont benefit from the tax deal, or many others who are barely touched by the tax deal. It seems more and more than nobody cares, neither the right nor the left.

Note that this article is only one example of many problems that real poor people encounter. Also, I am not posting this as an example of how the Obama administration is evil or a deity. I could not care less, because our government reflects who we are as a people, and, as a people we only seem concerned by the middle class and the rich. By large, the poor remain untouched.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/12/09/as_youth_homelessness_rises_group_seeks_to_give_shelter/

Young, alone, and homeless
As numbers rise in state and nation, Boston group seeks to create shelter
...
Since she aged out of foster care three years ago, Kaila Dunn has lived in more homeless shelters than she can recall, often dingy dwellings full of drunken men, rampant drug use, and too many people seeking to take advantage of her.


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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:13 AM
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1. r
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:18 AM
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2. Ironcally if she had a kid she would get services.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:19 AM
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3. i'm afraid the chance for a comprehensive look at the poor, jobs, mainstreet
has been passed by -- by our leaders.

a calculated choice as it were -- but these numbers have been dragging on america more and more over many years not just this recession.

and sooner or later all of this start to take on energy of it's own and become a serious, serious problem.
we have to have courage at the top to take thses issues on -- otherwise it's going to continue to roll along and get bigger with time.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:21 AM
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4. There is a doctrine.
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 10:34 AM by RandomThoughts
It is in the same vein as work will set you free, or the vein that Capitalism is an good entity that does no wrong to man.

It is the concept that the poor are 'the beast' and evil.

Basically some think that society is made to have most serve a few for their benefit, and the poor do not serve their benefit. Interestingly all they have to do is think of themselves as people, (the few in private or public power) and all the poor people as demons.

Then they think the poor were ordered to serve them, and don't when they are things like progressive. Also why they see some people as zombies, and themselves as living. Fits into the zombie doctrine in movies also.


And as I posted years ago about that doctrine, it is written in some heretical texts of Solomon that say that same thing, where he used the 'ring' to control demons, to build the temple for him. Although heretical, they say the mass of people are the demons, and the few at the top are the people they are suppose to serve.


That has been a doctrine for some for a long time, and gets them to feel they should be served by all the poor, and that they are most liked by God, and that only they are better, and that the poor should suffer being that they were cast down.


Really long doctrine, but been posting about it for years. It allows someone to break empathy through superiority.


That is why they do not see their own faults also, and why take the board out of your own eye, they have been tricked into thinking they are righteous without flaw, and then they judge even their own brothers for self satisfaction and self glory and luxury.


Although I know I have been tried to be tricked in that delusion myself, so think it is an education problem, so do not think they are bad for doing those things, just a bit confused.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:07 PM
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7. good points n/t
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:39 PM
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8. Actually, you are wrong and that's sad.
The truth is that those who are well off, don't really think about the poor. It doesn't even cross their "beautiful minds". Out of sight, out of mind, is the truth. There is no conspiracy, they aren't out to harness the poor, it's just that they don't think about them.

I'll give you an example: My ex sister-in-law was complaining how she went out and spent $12,000 cash on a speed boat and her boyfriend went and crashed it into a dock and it had to be repaired. She knew very well that I lived on $12,000 a year because we had a conversation about it. But it never entered into her head that I wouldn't be understanding about spending that kind of money on a second boat for her "camp". She thought I would understand why she was angry that she would have to wait to use it again, while it was being repaired.

Like I said, the poor doesn't even enter their mind.

zalinda
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:13 PM
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5. Unfortunately, the numbers are terrible.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:30 PM
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6. More here.
And yes, I understand that they would pay more if the deal was not voted, but the point is that the rich would pay a lot more, while under the deal, the working poor are the only one who will see their taxes increase, if this article is correct.


http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/taxes/working-poor-pay-more-obama-gop-tax-compromise/19752400/?icid=sphere_copyright

It tells us a lot about the priority of this tax deal.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:24 PM
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9. The saddest thing is that politicians today - including Mr. President -
don't mention or acknowledge the poor and homeless. Although now I know he wasn't for real, it was one of the reasons I supported John Edwards in 2004.

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