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Thu Dec-09-10 04:18 PM
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Sherrod Brown just said on CNN that DADT repeal is NOT dead. |
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Harry Reid can and will bring it up again after the tax bill has been voted on. This was an attempt to bypass that BS, but it didn't work. They were short 2 votes, and we'll have them-Brown and Murkowski, and probably more.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:18 PM
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:20 PM
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4. Yes, it sure is! Brooke Baldwin said to Brown, "So I guess the repeal is DOA, right?" That's when |
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he said what he said in my OP.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:19 PM
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2. I'm sure LGBT military feel really good about being used as political pawns (eom) |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:23 PM
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10. I'm sure they don't-and that includes anger at the Dems. who are not voting for the |
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tax bill in the name of "purity."
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:32 PM
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26. must people don't mind using the 98% for political pawns. why |
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should LGBT be any different (and why do we call them that, what's wrong with non-straight).
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Thu Dec-09-10 05:00 PM
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37. Non-straight? Really? |
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I much rather prefer to call heterosexuals non-gay.
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Thu Dec-09-10 06:07 PM
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42. hey that works for me too, just never understood why i needed |
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to know if someone was transgendered or bi.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:19 PM
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3. I thought they were short 3 votes... |
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the new dem senator voted against repeal for whatever crazy reason.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:21 PM
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8. Harry Reid voted against it so that he can bring it up again. It's procedural. n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:24 PM
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11. Wait, what? Harry Reid voted against repealing DADT? |
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Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 04:24 PM by no limit
WTF? When we just needed 2 more votes?
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:26 PM
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17. That's how it works. If he voted FOR it, he couldn't bring it up again. n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:28 PM
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in order to bring it up again for a vote. Really, inform yourself...
:)
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Thu Dec-09-10 05:02 PM
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39. Isn't this the 2nd time he has done this for DADT |
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and at least the 10th time for other votes that the GOP has blocked?
You'd think "informed" DUers would know why he had to vote no by now.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:34 PM
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27. Under Senate rules, ... |
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a motion to reconsider can only be made by someone who voted with the prevailing side. Had he voted for cloture, he would not be able to make such a motion.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:35 PM
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Thu Dec-09-10 08:29 PM
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48. But what I don't understand is if he only needed 2 more votes |
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he had no way to find one more senator that would vote for this? And if that's the case why did they even bring this to the floor?
Thanks for your explaination by the way.
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Fri Dec-10-10 12:36 AM
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His vote was one. He would have to convince two others.
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:02 AM
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56. One was Blanche Lincoln who didn't know the vote was taking place |
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Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 11:02 AM by no limit
since Reid caught everyone by suprise. She was a yes vote.
So he needed only one more vote.
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Fri Dec-10-10 12:35 AM
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54. How many times can he do this? |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:20 PM
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5. not good to be today a .... |
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gay 911 responder who wants to serve opently in the military...
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:20 PM
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6. He also thinks Obama has 60 votes in the Senate to pass a tax hike on the rich. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:27 PM
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Were you being sarcastic?
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:39 PM
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33. Brown said that the Democrats were for certain |
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going to force the Republicans to cave on UI extensions.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:31 PM
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25. That's a GOOD thintg-so they can get back to THIS bill and others. n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:21 PM
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7. Time is running out fast... |
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If this tax cut "deal" debate doesn't get resolved soon, there will be no time for the days upon days of debate the Republicans are demanding in exchange for yes votes. The time remaining in the this lame duck Congress is fast disappearing.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:26 PM
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16. Sherrod Brown said they should stay in session 'til it's done. And this is |
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a reason why the tax cut deal DOES need to be done soon-and WILL be done soon. John Harwood reported today that DADT repeal has a good chance of getting done.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:36 PM
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29. Yeah, but Sherrod Brown OPPOSES the tax deal... |
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...last I checked.
Your basically depending on Sherrod Brown to hurry up the tax deal so we can get to a standalone DADT, yet Sherrod Brown opposes the tax deal and intends to try to stop it. Opposing the tax deal gums up the works for everything else - including DADT, DREAM, START, etc.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:42 PM
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34. There are enough Repubs. who will support the tax deal. n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:50 PM
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36. Well, yes, I agree with that...n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:23 PM
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9. Reid said toward the end of his speech, before the voting began, |
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that this was just 1 of three ways he would try for passage.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:24 PM
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:25 PM
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13. If there's "time" and Robert Gates said he doubted there would be. |
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I don't see this happening now. I just don't.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:29 PM
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24. Gates didn't know about Lieberman's determination on this. n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 09:51 PM
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This is all rehearsed drama down to Senator Lincoln's dentist excuse.
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Thu Dec-09-10 10:20 PM
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52. Got a link? Or is this your conspiracy theory? |
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Thu Dec-09-10 10:37 PM
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53. It is you who made the silly assertion that Gates & Lieberman aren't communicating on this issue. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:25 PM
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14. Olympia Snowe voted against it too. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:27 PM
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19. All signs point to her going "teabagger" to avoid a primary in 2012.* |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:37 PM
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31. i wish stephen king would run against her |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:25 PM
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:28 PM
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21. Collins and Lieberman will be holding a news conference soon. n/t |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:36 PM
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30. yeah, no thanks, I'll pass |
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Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 04:37 PM by dave29
Lieberman and Collins will both slam Reid. I was giving Joe the benefit of the doubt yesterday. But I'm done with his Shenanigans, at least for today
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Thu Dec-09-10 06:45 PM
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47. Lieberman and Collins, peas in a pod. Slimy peas in a pod. Don't trust either of those republicans. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:29 PM
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23. Kick that ball again, Charlie Brown! nt |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:38 PM
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32. Susan Collins is talking now. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 06:42 PM
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46. A dirty, lying republican. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:44 PM
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35. And the roller coaster ride continues... |
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Thu Dec-09-10 05:00 PM
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38. Sherrod Brown seems to say a lot of things on CNN |
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sometimes he talks as if he has 59 votes in his pocket.
That said; I love the guy.
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Thu Dec-09-10 05:26 PM
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40. My newly elected fuckwad Senator, Mark Kirk, voted against it. |
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Nevertheless, I'll keep calling him.
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Thu Dec-09-10 06:41 PM
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I too will continue calling him.
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Thu Dec-09-10 05:29 PM
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41. How can that be when more repugs will be in office in January? |
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Thu Dec-09-10 06:39 PM
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43. It is dead. Brown voted no. Murkoski voted no. Collins is a no. It's over. Why in the hell |
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would any republican vote for anything supported by the President or Democrats in Congress? It will never happen. Never.
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Thu Dec-09-10 06:40 PM
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44. ?? Brown (R) voted no , what, an hour ago? Now you say he would vote for it? |
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:11 AM
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57. YES! Scott Brown, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins (again) all said they will vote yes |
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AFTER the tax bill has been taken care of.
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:30 AM
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58. Tax bill will get done followed by DADT repeal. |
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:33 AM
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The person I was responding to doesn't seem to believe it.
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Thu Dec-09-10 09:56 PM
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50. It will not have a chance until the tax compromise bill passes both the Senate and the House. |
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That's what Mitch McConnell said today. So if the Dems in the House don't change their mind and vote for the tax cut bill that included tax cuts for the rich, DADT is dead.
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Thu Dec-09-10 10:10 PM
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51. So, now the Rethuglicans are holding the entire country hostage!! |
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"We want that bill passed first, or we aren't going to let you vote on this bill now."
Jesus, you talk about a screwed up system. No fucking company in the world could operate this way and not go bankrupt!!
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