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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:43 PM
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So add 55+ers to Medicare using reconciliation and dare them to take that away 5 years later
I think once that program is expanded, it's not going away.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:44 PM
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1. But what happens to everyone under 55?
Will they have access to a public option instead of being forced to buy private health insurance with annual caps and no guarantee that pre-existing conditions will be done away with?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:02 PM
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10. I didn't say ONLY to do that
:eyes:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:48 PM
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15. Duly noted (n/t)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:46 PM
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2. Hartmann wants them to reduce the qual. age to ZERO!
I say not zero, but 18 or 24 or whatever age the child care ins. stops.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:47 PM
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3. That would help
:hi:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:50 PM
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4. Indeed
Government programs are very hard to take away. SCHIP was created in 1997 and has only grown since then; same with Americorps.

BUT to pass reconciliation rules, it has to reduce the deficit, even if by only a small amount. This CBO analysis has be nervous.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:52 PM
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5. If we are going to use reconciliation, why waste it?
MEDICARE FOR ALL !
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HillGal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:52 PM
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6. The costs were estimated at minimum $600 per month for people 55
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 01:52 PM by HillGal
to sign up with Medicare, who could even afford that? I sure couldn't.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:58 PM
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7. Isn't that until 2014 when the subsidies kick in?
I think medicaid will help until then.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:00 PM
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9. My states Medicaid will pay for a quit smoking class and that is about it
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:11 PM
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11. According to some I work with medicaid pays for everything they need medically.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:14 PM
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12. I will bet you a dollar they do not live in IOWA
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 02:20 PM by Vincardog
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:38 PM
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13. Across the river in IL.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:47 PM
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14. That probably explains it.
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HillGal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:37 PM
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16. How many doctors accept medicaid? you can't find a doctor
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:37 PM by HillGal
less then a half hours drive around here who take medicaid, and increasingly more doctors are dropping medicare.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:59 PM
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8. I could afford it if I gave up living in a house and eating
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:38 AM
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17. They could do that.....certainly!
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